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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 18, 2013 at 3:07 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You weren't born with the atheism as a concept or any other concept either. Later in life you decided to become an atheist.

Atheism is a philosophy and you learned it and now you adhere to it. You weren't born with it.
Not the point SoC.
Babies are born without the ability to know the concepts of religion or the ability to reject said claims. Since atheism is the lack of belief in a god, their lack of belief (or in this case the inability to do so) makes them atheist in nature.
Quote: You're making the error of extending this to God when God didn't explain these natural processes he only created them.
More claims of creation without any proof, I'm going to print this sentence just so I can have the physical action of throwing it out.
Quote:If you think you can make an informed educated choice the moment you're born it's safe to say you are wrong.
Again, the argument was not for educated decisions being made at birth pertaining to religion or anything else for that matter. That's just ridiculous, and you're being asinine by continuing the thought that this is what was meant.

Quote:You still have a philosophy regarding religion and the true nature of the world, the meaning of life the universe and everything. You weren't born with this belief you learned it later, or at any rate perhaps you picked it up by a kind of osmosis.
Once again, we are not born with any beliefs. De facto atheist.

Quote:If you want to convince someone of something you don't just state your own opinion as fact.
This is singularly, the most hypocritical thing I've seen you post. You constantly try to convince others by giving your opinion, granted you back them up with pseudo facts and mystical nonsense but that makes it worse. Not better.

Quote:I carefully explained how you were not born as an atheist. Unless you want to say a cow or a pig is an atheist and that you have the exact same reasoning capacity of them?
If you would like, yes, in the same way that babies are born without the ability to reason or the ability to believe in concepts, cows, pigs, ducks and all other types of animals are de facto atheists. Sure, it's a stretch and rather silly but you went there, and the mind of a baby is quite like that of an animals at birth; no coherent thoughts, purely instinctual for a short time etc.. Animals cannot make judgements about these things, but humans can once they are older and therein lies the difference.
This line of thought does not in fact equate any adult atheist's ability to reason, capacity for intelligence or their humanity to that of an animals. As much as I'm sure you'd love to make that comparison.
If some philosopher, or psychologist or what have you, wants to (or has) come up with a proper definition for this state of mind where belief systems cannot be decided upon due to the inability to do so then so be it and if it's an acceptable and rightly neutral definition of what I would like to call an innocently unbiased mind then that's what this state would become.
Until such a time I, and evidently many others, will continue to refer to it as atheism by definition, for lack of a more specific term.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer. - by Bob Kelso - October 18, 2013 at 4:51 pm

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