(October 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: We can establish you can't cease to exist if you already exist,
Thats why I said: my consciousness. The molecules that make me up won't cease to exist, but my mind will.
(October 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You can have eternal life with God and in love or eternal life without God and without his love, that's essentially the choice you have. It's a fair enough choice as you're not being forced into anything you don't want.I don't want to go to hell. But if i don't do what god wants, I will end up there because of the system he created. If i don't want to go there but i have no choice in the matter, that means I am being forced into something i don't want.
(October 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: If he created us the way you're suggesting we wouldn't be humans but angels, they don't necessarily get to have their own freedom of will they carry out Gods will. But as humans we have the free choice and are able to exist in an interactive two way relationship with God.
Just saying, 'we have free will' is not an answer. I'm asking, how a god that loves everyone and understands what it is like to suffer, can just sit around and watch as billions of people suffer and die unjustly. Saying that we have free will is not an answer.
(October 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: More reassurance than you would give them.
False hope. Lies. That is what you give them. I would give them reality. The truth is always better. Instead of reassurance i would give them aid, food, water, shelter. This all comes down to you not caring what you believe as long as you can feel good about it.
(October 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: He has done something about it.Its not enough then.
(October 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Because of the way we were made we evolved naturally, there are going to be genetic defects and mutations. People are going to suffer and die as we all will eventually that's what being a human is all about it can't be avoided.
Why not? An all powerful god can't make it so that we don't get genetic defects and mutations? And don't fucking mention angels again, i don't like listening to bullshit
(October 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: No it doesn't make it ok. Atheists seem to think it is ok.
Wow, that is a very big sweeping statement. You care to explain yourself? You got any evidence? Or are you pulling shit out your ass?
(October 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You don't reject the Christian God because you don't understand what the Christian God is or why people would place their faith in him.
I understand better than any believer what the Christian god is. Read the fucking bible without those rose colored spectacles and you may get to know him properly.
Why do you speak about faith like it is a virtue. I think we may have different definitions of faith but my one is: believing in something despite lack of evidence and/or evidence to the contrary. Faith is a cop out. Faith is gullibility
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
