(October 21, 2013 at 12:12 pm)Cinjin Wrote: First of all, you WERE doing so well with the spelling. Your posts were nearly perfectly readable there for awhile. What happened?different computer. the Ipad has auto correct.
Quote:Secondly, the lifelong imprisonment response is the first good argument I've ever seen come from your fingertips. I disagree of course, but good job none the less.Just to elaborate: If we can imprision someone for a single finite crime, committed against another person then why is God prohibited for doing the same?
Thirdly, and the real reason your post caught my eye:
Quote:This is an example of why you have this reputation:Now finish this thought with the bible as your guide. Because we are flawed Christ died on our behalf so we do not have to. all we must do is accept what He has done in our stead.
It is completely reasonable to make a logical conclusion based on the facts presented by your bible: By your own admission, your god allows for a creation that is NOT remotely perfect ("a copy of a copy of a copy").
Quote:Therefore, this being is mortal and finite.But we are not. This phase of our existance is finite, but 'we' have the potential of being infinite. hence the need for a life sentence. (for however long 'life' happens to be.)
Quote: Being a finite creature, it is not possible for this being to re-create infinitely. Meaning, the sins that are committed are not committed for all time. (The man's car I stole or even the woman I raped are not suffering these sins in the next life.)and what of those who we give 10 or 20 life sentences? In reality one life sentence says that no mater how long you live you will be imprisioned. the idea here is that a ted bundy or a chuck mansion has done something so evil that we are trying to communicate that if they lived 20 life times they could not be imprisioned long enough to pay for what they did in the short/finite amount of time they lived outside of jail.
The same can be said here. The 'life in Hell' sentence only seems unjust because we have trivialized our 'sins' with our relitive morality. Much like Mansion or Bundy has done. But, even so when compared to an absolute standard (The law) their excuses or personal justifications meant nothing. Because the ones in authority were in a position to levy a judgement to take away their personal freedom for the rest of their existance.
Quote: More so, a perfect god would be free of malicious vendettas against peons who sinned during a finite life.again how do you know that your sins do not echo out through eternity? Meaning how do you know the crap you will not repent of here in this life will not carry over into the next? Meaning if you were a ted bundy who killed and ate people, and you served a life sentence, died and was brought back or died and better yet was resurrected, you would not continue to 'feed' on people in the next life? How is turning an unrepentant sinner like a hitler or a ted bundy type loose on the population of Heaven a righteous act?
Quote:In fact, regardless of how great those sins may have seemed during that lifetime, they would not even register as a blip on the meter of billions of human lives on the eternal plain of existence.You and the OP are missing the point. We are slaves to sin. Meaning we can not help but to sin. Christ said a slave can not have two masters. "He will love the one and hate the other." If we do not rebuke and turn from our master of sin, then for all of eternity we will resent and hate God, and all of those who follow and love God. So again, 'we' are not ALL His Children. if we are not all his Children then why would God be looking out for the intrest of those who hate Him and those who are in His care? If he were to do this it would be to the determent to all of those who gave given themselves to Him. In other words God would be looking out for the intrest ofsomeone elses children over His Own.
How is this a 'righteous' act? to foresake your kids eternal future for the benfit of a stranger's children?