(October 24, 2013 at 10:35 pm)Polaris Wrote: As a Christian, I find it immeasurably less time consuming and requires no effort to go after their secular knowledge than waste my time talking about religion.
As opposed to convincing us that what you believe about god is true?
Many theists seem more interested in trying to raise doubt about the lack of existence of god than trying to prove he's there. I don't need convincing that I might be wrong, or that there's a lot I don't know, or that I can't prove god isn't hiding in some undetectable closet dimension. We can take those as a given, and then skip right to the part where you provide a compelling case for god.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould