(October 25, 2013 at 6:46 am)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote: As I recall, the idea that jesus was pure myth has long been refuted and is no longer taken seriously by scholars. It is considered beyond doubt that Jesus was baptised by john and was crucified.
If you would like a non-biblical reference to jesus, how about this:
But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the Bounties that the prince could bestow, nor all the atonements Which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the Conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumour, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.
Tacitus, The Annals, Book 15 (44)
Even if this were true, so what?
Without the miracles and the resurrection, Jesus is just another itinerant Jewish preacher annoying the fuck out of people.
And if he's not the son of god then your religion is still a lie.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.