(October 26, 2013 at 8:54 pm)Aractus Wrote: I'm not sure exactly who pointed these out, however they hold as true, including for people like Ehrman who are secular/non-believing NT/Greek historians/scholars.
I don't get what you're sayimg here. Elaborate? Because if you're saying Ehrman agrees with those 4 facts in particular, you're flat out wrong, as Ehrman has made clear in both debates and on his website.
Quote:You could think of it in terms of Holocaust denial. Some of the "facts" are open for discussion, such as the exact number of people who were killed - estimated to be 11 million - but I don't think anyone would be surprised if that figured turned out to be 11.5 million or 12 million. But some of the indisputable facts would be that Nazi's targeted Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, the disabled and people who resisted the Nazi regime. That they systematically and deliberately practised genocide, in addition to forced labour.
The Holocaust has far more more documentation and multiple types of evidence than anything related to Jesus of Nazareth. That's not even a remotely good comparison.
Quote:The same can be said for the life of Christ - there are some facts - in fact well more than the four that I've listed - that are well beyond disputed. Other facts would include that Paul wrote "at least" these 7 epistles: Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, and Philemon.
You brought up those 4 facts, so I stuck to those. Further, what do the Pauline letters have to do with facts of the life of Jesus of Nazareth?
And I see you skipped over 1st Timothy. Perhaps because it is *most probably* a forged Pauline letter? You're not a Biblical inerrantist, are you?