Challenge to atheists: I find your lack of faith disturbing!

[Aractus]

I don't get what you're sayimg here. Elaborate? Because if you're saying Ehrman agrees with those 4 facts in particular, you're flat out wrong, as Ehrman has made clear in both debates and on his website.

Ehrman has some wild theories/speculation. But nothing he says disagrees with the fact that he still has confidence that Jesus existed, called disciples, etc. Which facts in particular are you saying he disagrees with?

You brought up those 4 facts, so I stuck to those. Further, what do the Pauline letters have to do with facts of the life of Jesus of Nazareth?

And I see you skipped over 1st Timothy. Perhaps because it is *most probably* a forged Pauline letter? You're not a Biblical inerrantist, are you?

I never said that any of his writings are "probably forgeries". Regarding the Pastoral Epistles, I simply didn't say that's overwhelming consensus for Pauline authorship as there is for the others I mentioned. I would point out to you that the scepticism of Pauline authorship is based on some rather flimsy assumptions, and not on hard facts or evidence.

For instance, the fact is that none of the three contain any new doctrine or contradictory message not found within Paul's other letters, so if it's a forgery what was its purpose? Also, as pointed out by Daniel Wallace, Ehrman can't have his cake and eat it too - Ehrman bases his conclusion that the three Pastoral Epistles are forged based on the vocabulary of the text - well if he is willing to make this claim, then he's saying that he does know exactly what the original greek text said, because how else would he know what the vocabulary is?

My view remains that the inherent greek vocabulary is that of the scribe and not of Paul, and that's an inescapable problem for anyone - like Ehrman - who claims that such sweeping conclusions can be made on the basis of vocabulary. The simple fact is that Paul himself didn't put pen to paper, and dictated his epistles to a scribe, who would memorize what Paul said go away and write it down on papyrus.

Romans 16:22: "I Tertius, who wrote this letter, greet you in the Lord."