(October 30, 2013 at 6:01 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: OK, I think I see what you are saying, that one claim does not establish the other claim? Just because there is a God does not mean that he had Son. Just because people believed that Son was God does not mean that there was an actual person.
Exactly.
Quote:I think that I got a little confused with this paragraph here:
The second sentence appears to be setting up an if/then statement, but the "then" never really comes about.
Ah, my bad. Sometimes I type these threads out quickly on my phone, and so the stream of consciousness isn't ironed out.
Quote:I really apologize if I misunderstood you, and please don't take it as me misrepresenting you. I was only asking for clarification and presenting what I understood from it. If what I understood was wrong, I appreciate you putting the time into helping me out.
That's my bad. I've been annoyed in some discussions on the forums before by some theists who seemingly intentionally misrepresent people's positions, so I admit it's almost become inbuilt to see a potential misunderstanding as ill intent.
Quote:Also, I do not confuse my belief with certain truth. I have faith that my beliefs come together into a single truth. And to be honest, it often comes to be tested.
Just like I have noticed that some atheists in this forum do not define themselves as being 100% certain that there is no God, they only believe there is no God.
Or am I mistaken there as well? I didn't think that I was that old, but apparently things have changed since I was an atheist.
Seems mostly accurate. I'm more or less certain that God (Yahweh) doesn't exist, or least as is often described and defined by apologists. It's more or less impossible to rule out all or any god(s) a priori because not all of them are self-contradictory.
