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My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :)
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My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :)
Hey everyone. This is my first post. I'm confused so I'll apologize for the ramble that follows.

I've always been agnostic. My parents went to catholic school and were beaten on a regular basis so they decided to drop organized religion. We never went to church and never talked about religion or god... ever. I've always felt a very spiritual presence in my life - in the eyes of woman, the outdoors, the moon, the rain, mountains, deep meditation, writing music (not the analytical type). In other words you could say I'm agnostic, or an atheist or an agnostic atheist (what the hell am I? haha). I've NEVER believed in 1 or 100 gods, but I've always believed that god was everything - I worship nature, I can FEEL nature, and human connection and that there is a larger power and force at work in the world. I can't prove it... but you can't disprove it. My problem with Atheism in its sole dependence on the scientific method. It is simply a tool to break things down into categories, but creating categories is really just created by humans, its a human process.

In other words, we, as human beings, created EVERYTHING that can actually explain anything. The basis of Atheism seems to be, I'll believe only that which is proven with logic or experiments. But in actually proving anything, your using tools that humans designed. The scientific method was designed by us, just like the bible. Even words are a tool that we designed ourselves... the fact that I read that my soul is created by a firing of neurons, or that love is a chemical reaction... neurons and chemical reactions are really just a matter focusing on one part of a bigger picture and labeling it. A neuron is just a word describing a part of you that YOU are focusing on right now at this moment. Not seeing the forest for the trees, or in other words, not seeing the soul or love for the neurons and chemical reactions... Science in general is really just breaking things down and breaking them down again, and labeling this and categorizing that... It seems like Atheism is based on a million illusions that we created ourselves to try and understand ourselves. But my FEELING of the divine, of spirituality, of ONE with the EARTH and the stars and universe... I can be the universe or I could be a single cell at the same time, its just how I am perceiving it in that moment (is this how Quantum Theory works in a sense too? I'm not all too familiar with it) F**k I'm confused Confused Fall

Isn't Atheism just believing in the scientific method which was created by us. Is Atheism giving humans too much credit? Isn't reality just our consciousness and what we are focusing on at the moment... I mean to me, Atheism can't disprove god either. You can say, "how could god allow such a messed up world." But that would assume that god has human traits and morality. Atheism just seems to be too simplistic for me, its rooted in too many man made concepts. I need a beer my brain hurts.
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My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by LoveandLight - February 1, 2010 at 1:09 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by KichigaiNeko - February 1, 2010 at 1:22 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by TruthWorthy - February 1, 2010 at 1:28 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 1, 2010 at 1:31 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by LoveandLight - February 1, 2010 at 1:54 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by leo-rcc - February 1, 2010 at 5:06 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by downbeatplumb - February 1, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by TruthWorthy - February 1, 2010 at 2:03 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by theVOID - February 1, 2010 at 2:09 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 1, 2010 at 3:07 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by downbeatplumb - February 1, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Eilonnwy - February 1, 2010 at 4:05 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 1, 2010 at 4:54 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by LoveandLight - February 1, 2010 at 5:04 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by leo-rcc - February 1, 2010 at 5:27 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Autumnlicious - February 1, 2010 at 5:36 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Eilonnwy - February 1, 2010 at 6:33 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Zen Badger - February 2, 2010 at 9:57 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by fr0d0 - February 1, 2010 at 5:13 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Meatball - February 1, 2010 at 5:42 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Autumnlicious - February 1, 2010 at 6:04 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 1, 2010 at 6:05 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by LEDO - February 1, 2010 at 8:15 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by LoveandLight - February 1, 2010 at 8:49 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 1, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by LEDO - February 1, 2010 at 9:34 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by LoveandLight - February 1, 2010 at 9:40 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Autumnlicious - February 1, 2010 at 11:03 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by downbeatplumb - February 7, 2010 at 7:06 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Watson - February 1, 2010 at 10:04 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by LoveandLight - February 2, 2010 at 1:50 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Autumnlicious - February 2, 2010 at 2:22 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Watson - February 2, 2010 at 2:47 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Autumnlicious - February 2, 2010 at 2:53 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Watson - February 2, 2010 at 8:33 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Violet - February 2, 2010 at 2:31 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 2, 2010 at 6:40 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by leo-rcc - February 2, 2010 at 6:45 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Rhizomorph13 - February 2, 2010 at 2:39 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by TruthWorthy - February 2, 2010 at 4:23 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by KichigaiNeko - February 2, 2010 at 5:46 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Eilonnwy - February 2, 2010 at 9:42 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Autumnlicious - February 2, 2010 at 2:07 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by LoveandLight - February 2, 2010 at 3:18 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Rhizomorph13 - February 2, 2010 at 3:40 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Zhalentine - February 2, 2010 at 4:32 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 2, 2010 at 6:03 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Eilonnwy - February 2, 2010 at 6:16 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by theVOID - February 2, 2010 at 4:17 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Rhizomorph13 - February 2, 2010 at 5:05 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by TruthWorthy - February 2, 2010 at 6:50 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Autumnlicious - February 2, 2010 at 7:17 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by padraic - February 3, 2010 at 1:15 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Edwardo Piet - February 5, 2010 at 10:45 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Welsh cake - February 7, 2010 at 5:24 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by padraic - February 7, 2010 at 8:12 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by theVOID - February 7, 2010 at 8:20 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by padraic - February 7, 2010 at 8:46 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 7, 2010 at 9:02 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by tackattack - February 7, 2010 at 10:06 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by padraic - February 8, 2010 at 12:24 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 8, 2010 at 1:08 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by starbucks - February 8, 2010 at 6:22 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 8, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by TruthWorthy - February 8, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by starbucks - February 8, 2010 at 6:48 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by theVOID - February 8, 2010 at 7:44 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by TruthWorthy - February 8, 2010 at 7:01 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by fr0d0 - February 8, 2010 at 9:17 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by starbucks - February 8, 2010 at 7:54 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by theVOID - February 8, 2010 at 8:08 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by starbucks - February 8, 2010 at 8:28 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by theVOID - February 8, 2010 at 11:22 am
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by objectivitees - February 18, 2010 at 2:25 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Meatball - February 18, 2010 at 3:18 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 18, 2010 at 3:20 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by theVOID - February 18, 2010 at 7:55 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2010 at 8:17 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by TruthWorthy - February 18, 2010 at 4:53 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by objectivitees - February 18, 2010 at 4:58 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 18, 2010 at 8:03 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by objectivitees - February 18, 2010 at 8:22 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 18, 2010 at 8:56 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by objectivitees - February 23, 2010 at 12:20 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by tavarish - February 23, 2010 at 12:34 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Rhizomorph13 - February 18, 2010 at 7:35 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by tackattack - February 18, 2010 at 8:16 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by objectivitees - February 23, 2010 at 12:54 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by tavarish - February 23, 2010 at 5:57 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Autumnlicious - February 24, 2010 at 7:11 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by tavarish - February 24, 2010 at 9:05 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Darwinian - February 23, 2010 at 1:58 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by tackattack - February 23, 2010 at 5:47 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by Tiberius - February 24, 2010 at 8:09 pm
RE: My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :) - by leo-rcc - February 25, 2010 at 4:33 am

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