I am unclear as to why you felt it necessary to write so much about Peter, but it is interesting. Thank you for taking the time to share that. When I was in Rome, I visited the Vatican and took a tour of St. Peter’s Basilica. Fascinating stuff really, except the dead popes incased in glass. That was a bit morbid. But, I digress…
I don’t doubt that you do. I would hate to presume incorrectly, but it sounds as though you are a believer in the Judeo Christian God, no doubt?
This implies that you do not recognize the Islamic Allah of the Koran, for both the Bible (John 14:6) and the Koran (5:71-75; 19:30-38), make it implicitly clear that they are the exclusive path to salvation. This makes the gods endorsed by these texts incompatible and mutually exclusive.
What I’m getting at is this:
If it is your belief is that one could not mistake something as true if they are willing to die for it; I am curious as to whether or not you are swayed into believing in Allah, since everyday suicide bombers do that very thing in support of their cause. You did say that you do not think it makes sense for somebody to let themselves be killed for a hoax. It is my guess that you do not find their deaths convincing as proofs for their incompatible God, and if I may extend my guess further, I would guess that you believe those muslims to also be gravely mistaken. Did I understand your proof correctly, or shall we attempt to narrow down this evidence into terms that may be easier for one such as my self to grasp?
(October 31, 2013 at 7:56 am)Aractus Wrote: Now let me address your question. That is best answered by what I've consistently said. 1. Jesus dies crucified on a cross.I will grant this as a horrible tragedy. Times were quite barbaric. I must say that I’m happy we no longer use such primitive forms of death penalty, and I long for a world that finds a way to achieve justice while avoiding it all together.
(October 31, 2013 at 7:56 am)Aractus Wrote: If he was insincere he would not die for a hoax.It sounds like your saying that it was either a hoax, or it was true. Do you believe that somebody cannot truly believe something and yet still be mistaken?
(October 31, 2013 at 7:56 am)Aractus Wrote: 2. early Christian leaders were also martyred, and again, it simply does not make sense that they would die for a hoax. Think about contemporary cults - usually the cult leader expects others to die for him, or to otherwise profit him.I think I have the same question here. Do you believe it possible for a person to truly believe something with every fiber of their being, and yet still be mistaken?
I don’t doubt that you do. I would hate to presume incorrectly, but it sounds as though you are a believer in the Judeo Christian God, no doubt?
This implies that you do not recognize the Islamic Allah of the Koran, for both the Bible (John 14:6) and the Koran (5:71-75; 19:30-38), make it implicitly clear that they are the exclusive path to salvation. This makes the gods endorsed by these texts incompatible and mutually exclusive.
What I’m getting at is this:
If it is your belief is that one could not mistake something as true if they are willing to die for it; I am curious as to whether or not you are swayed into believing in Allah, since everyday suicide bombers do that very thing in support of their cause. You did say that you do not think it makes sense for somebody to let themselves be killed for a hoax. It is my guess that you do not find their deaths convincing as proofs for their incompatible God, and if I may extend my guess further, I would guess that you believe those muslims to also be gravely mistaken. Did I understand your proof correctly, or shall we attempt to narrow down this evidence into terms that may be easier for one such as my self to grasp?
