The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old

[Optimistic Mysanthrope]

Yes, all of the current oceanic crust (which ranges from about 250 million years to the present) post-dates nearly all of the continental Paleozoic sedimentary record, BY DEFINITION.

Yup, tell Optimistic Mysanthrope this, he is the one who seemed to knot know this.

What? How did you figure that?

The round trip is only defined as from emission to detection if the beam of light changes direction. Me shooting a beam of light to you standing on the Moon is not a round trip, it would merely be the one way speed of light which is impossible to measure. Now if you reflect the light back at me then we have a round trip, and using either convention we’d measure the speed of light as being c.

Fair enough. I have a couple of questions though.

1) How does the anisotropic synchrony convention account for redshift?

2) How come communication with the apollo mission, ISS, etc suffers from delay? Surely each transmission would arrive instantly in that convention?

Oh, and I found a couple of articles regarding experiments to prove the one way speed of light:

http://http://arxiv.org/ftp/...df
http://http://mysite.verizon...df

Me either, cosmology gets unbearably complex in a very short period of time.

Yeah, about 10-35 if memory serves

One method of verifying it involves comparison with dendrochronolgy. IIRC, bristlecone pines give an unbroken record dating back 9000 years or so.

Sure, the idea behind this makes since but did you know that many trees, including bristlecone pines can generate multiple “annual” rings per year?

Yes, I also know that it's possible for no rings to form in a year. That's the advantage of cross referencing the data from multiple sources. In order for that objection to be valid, a large proportion of the samples would have had to produce multiple rings in the same year. Multiple rings are the exception rather than the norm, which is what would have to be the case for a young earth.

I believe there was research done in Korea that demonstrated that a vessel the size of the ark would have been remarkably stable. Secondly, pitch comes from living trees not from fossils.

Have you got a link for that research? I'm sure it would float, that part's easy. It might even be stable, right up until the point where it had to move in open water. If I remember rightly, the practical limit for the length of a wooden ship is about 300ft; even then, taking on water is a constant problem. With the dimensions given for the ark, the stresses put on the hull would have literally torn it to pieces. And that's before you even put the animals on board.

Oh, and my mistake, I was only aware of pitch being made from coal tar.

You have done nothing to demonstrate my objection falls into this category (whatever “lucy” means); so to me it appears you are merely avoiding my objection.

I consider it to be equally ridiculous and hence not worth the effort.

Thanks! Finally something to work with. I do not see anything in this article that seems to contradict the creation timeline, did I miss it?

The article was merely to illustrate how matrilineal ancestry was determined.

According to this creation model the magnetic reversals took place during the year of the flood; so I am not seeing any issue here.

Again, that's my point. It would require all antideluvian oceanic crust to be subducted and replaced within a year.

There are multiple lines of evidence. We have large canyons carved out by receding flood waters, sedimentary rocks laid down all over the world, millions of tons of coal and gallons of oil resulting from decaying biomaterial deposited by the flood, deluge legends in hundreds of world cultures, and even the Biblical text says that the mountains rose up and pushed the waters back to the sea. Is that what you were asking?

Evidence? Not for flood legends and the bible, obviously.

Quoting from the cover of course. I have read the God Delusion and the Greatest Show on Earth though.

You read more than one book by dawkins???? Why would you do that to yourself? The god delusion stretched my tolerance to the limit, there's no way I'd go through that again.