My issues with Atheism, Lets talk :)

[Tiberius]

I don't know a lot of physics, I'm not a rational guy. I'm a passionate motherfucker who spends my time falling in love with girls (unlike Chuck Norris) and making beautiful music with amazing people for a living. I don't have the smarts of a physics major, I was built with other qualities. Instead of breaking things down, I build connections, I build relationships, I feel connected with people and nature. And so I get mad at science for breaking it all down and ruining the beauty of it for me.

Science doesn't break it down; science *allows* us to break it down. You can still see beauty in things whilst knowing how they work. In fact, I'd say that the two are the same thing. We look up at the night sky without telescopes, and feel inspired. We also look up at the night sky with telescopes, and we see that all the points of light are stars and galaxies and nebula (where stars are BORN!), and we can understand how they form, and how they work...and THAT IS MORE BEAUTIFUL!!! In my opinion anyway.

It was STUPID because how am I supposed to find anything warm and fuzzy on an Atheist forum. But I'm curious because deep down, I feel it is the truth. But theres one part about Atheism I have a hard time grasping.

Here you go, ignoring what we've said again. STOP the stereotyping PLEASE! Atheists are no less "warm and fuzzy" than theists. In fact, losing belief in God and inheriting a connection with nature and science can feel quite warm for a lot of us. That, and the community feeling we all get when posting here.

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Put simply, these are problems for atheism, but they are also problems for theism. Atheism has no explanation for how these laws exist, and from a scientific standpoint, we have to honestly say "I don't know". However, on the theist side, just supposing God's existence as a means to answer the question is equally a problem. It's the ultimate non-answer, and in fact poses the larger question "How did God come into being?". I've been over this before, so I won't go into anymore details here. If you want to read my other opinions on it, you should read my previous responses to you.

And what creates logic? I guess you could say we created logic, but still... We are only limited to the laws, and the laws that allowed the history of the universe, which allowed the creation of the earth, which allowed the creation of us. Whats keeping the Earth from plunging into the Sun? Gravity attracts us to it, but what is antithesis of gravity? Its momentum and motion right? So, what created momentum? I can't see it, or touch it or smell it... its invisible, but we must have faith in it or we would plunge into the sun right? I'm not trying to argue there is a god, I'm just asking questions...

Logic is how we think. It comes from our reasoning, so in a way, we did invent logic. In another way, there are certain logical principles which are held absolutely true, given the nature of the universe. The three laws of logic are considered to be "absolute" in this respect.

As for what keeps the Earth from plunging into the Sun, the constant pull of the Earth by the Sun, plus the orbital momentum of the Earth itself around the Sun. It's a balance.

Anyway, of course you can see momentum. Every time you see something move, you see momentum. All forces are invisible, but we see the effects of such forces; we don't need faith in them. Do you really need faith that you won't float away into the sky? I don't think so.

Your assertion that "we need faith in it or we would plunge into the sun" is fallacious. Even if everyone in the world stopped believing in gravity, the Earth wouldn't plunge into the Sun. Laws of physics do not depend on any form of majority opinion.

I forget who said it, but this quotation kinda applies:

"A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it."