(February 2, 2010 at 3:18 pm)LoveandLight Wrote: I don't know a lot of physics, I'm not a rational guy. I'm a passionate motherfucker who spends my time falling in love with girls (unlike Chuck Norris) and making beautiful music with amazing people for a living. I don't have the smarts of a physics major, I was built with other qualities. Instead of breaking things down, I build connections, I build relationships, I feel connected with people and nature. And so I get mad at science for breaking it all down and ruining the beauty of it for me.
I take extreme offense at your words. Being artistic is not the only means to feeling connections and building relationships. I'm an artist (I draw) and a fiction writer. I thrive in fantasy worlds, yet at the same time I adore science. It's not like you can only appreciate one or the other. Being an artist doesn't make you not rational any less than being a scientist makes you not passionate.
You keep making extreme characterizations that are completely wrong about atheists.
(February 2, 2010 at 3:18 pm)LoveandLight Wrote: Anyways, I'm gonna get personal here. I'm going through a pretty tough time in my life where I just broke up with a girl I loved and blah blah blah. So I came here with a lot of emotion and a lot of confusion and losing faith in the order of things, and a little irrational. And maybe I wanted you to say... Your right, everything happens for a reason. It was STUPID because how am I supposed to find anything warm and fuzzy on an Atheist forum. But I'm curious because deep down, I feel it is the truth. But theres one part about Atheism I have a hard time grasping.
1. We are not your therapists. We are here to have debates not help you feel better about a bad breakup.
2. We never said anything happens for a reason, in fact the majority of us would probably challenge that. I myself despise that phrase.
3. Atheism speaks to belief in God only, but if you want platitudes, here we go. As an atheist I realize that my success is my own, I don't have to credit a sky overlord with everything right about my life. Furthermore, I have the power to change my life, it's not at the whim of a sky overlord. I'm not alone because I have my friends and family, they are what matter to me because they are real. When I feel down and depressed I can talk to them and it's way better than speaking to an invisible friend. I feel empowered and my mind is not enslaved by archaic notions of god and sin. I recognize that this is the world that matters, and as such I care about the world greatly. I donate not because I think God wants me to and I'll get heaven points, but because I genuinely care and want to help people. I believe this quote applies:
Dan Barker, Losing Faith in Faith, 1992. Wrote:“I have something to say to the religionist who feels atheists never say anything positive: You are an intelligent human being. Your life is valuable for its own sake. You are not second-class in the universe, deriving meaning and purpose from some other mind. You are not inherently evil—you are inherently human, possessing the positive rational potential to help make this a world of morality, peace and joy. Trust yourself.”
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin
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