(October 31, 2013 at 7:53 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Obviously.
The concept either exists or it doesnt.
Ohh deep! Deeply meaningless.
(October 31, 2013 at 7:53 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: It exists in the same way as compass points on a map exist.
I would say its a good thing that we have a sense of moral righteousness - a moral compass with a "true North".
If you think christians have a special moral compass, show us the evidence. I can't see any morals that aren't socially based. Give us an example.
(October 31, 2013 at 7:53 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: If God wasnt loving He would leave us to drift without a compass.So you say that without god's moral guidance, society would be just fine with a pedophile murderer walking our midst? That's pure stupidity. We atheists love our fellow man and we love our children and we expect our fellow citizens to behave with respect to each other. If someone misbehaves against society, then they do deserve to be punished, in relation to the crime. This moral compass from god you speak of is morally flawed in it's punishments, as it's proscribed punishments are eternal damnations in a fiery hell for victim-less crimes where the extenuating circumstances of having an imperfect brain and very poor reliability in the god instructions are ignored.
The pedophile, rapist murderer who drinks and drives and smokes in the movie cinema while talking loudly on their mobile phone would be merely "unpopular" - not evil and deserving of punishment.
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