RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
November 6, 2013 at 10:45 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2013 at 10:47 pm by Vincenzo Vinny G..)
(November 6, 2013 at 10:32 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(November 6, 2013 at 10:26 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Actually they are mutually exclusive. Both claim to be about what one believes.
Not according to the real world, Vin. Look at the root word for agnosticism: it means knowledge, not belief. Take a long hard look at what it means in terms of religion, too.
Is this seriously your strategy, here? Just take an end run around actually demonstrating anything by forcibly attempting to change the definitions of words?
The etymological origins of the word agnostic don't inform it's role as a belief vs knowledge. It defines what agnostic means.
A + Gnosis is a negation of knowledge, namely the claim that "It is impossible to know whether God exists or does not exist."
Applying the label agnostic to oneself, it makes no difference whether you "believe" or "know" that "it is impossible to know whether God does or does not exist". But ultimately, these labels serve as ideological labels, so instead of postulating contradictory knowledge (Ie, one group knows God exists, another group knows God doesn't exist- contradiction alert), we just state it in terms of beliefs.