(November 6, 2013 at 10:47 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(November 6, 2013 at 9:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: Picking out one verse in the story want get it, Jesus went to the home of Cleopus and another follower in Emmaus, they arrived after dark and after Jesus disappeared from their midst, they went back to Jerusalem to tell the apostles. This would be day two, your same day theory does not hold up.I've re-read the chapter to be sure I didn't miss anything. Here's my reasoning...
Quote:Luke 24:13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
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24:17-21 And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad? And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days? And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.
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24:29-30 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them. And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.
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24:33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
So, in plain (modern) English:
Early in the morning: Women came to the tomb
Later in the morning: the 11 don't believe them
Afternoon: Journey to Emmaus, confirmation in dialog it was still day 3
Evening: Dinner
Evening: (same hour) running back to other disciples, meeting with Jesus, Jesus blesses them and flies up into the sky
Looks like all in one day to me. I agree it's a pretty packed day but remember Jesus did all four trials in one night (Jews, Pilate, Antipas, back to Pilate).
Quote:As far as the rest of the text goes no specific time line is given, but as usual I'm sure you will assume a time line to fit your own ideas no matter how wrong they are.
Do tell, what part of "being seen of them forty days" sounds unspecific to you?
Jesus ascension was during day light hours, not at night. Now it says Jesus tarried with them which means he spent some time with them, they said the day was near spent, this means night was shortly to come. Then a seven mile run, right, I ran track in high school, long distance, and running seven miles would be a difficult task for anyone who had not trained rigorously, actually I would say impossible. So by your own research it did not happen, also remember that sundown meant the start of a new day to the Jewish people.
No time line in Luke, he gave it in Acts to bring more detail to the story, you might ask why, I don't know you'll need to ask Luke. I do appreciate that you went back to see what the whole story said. You are one of the few who will and for that I give you kudos.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.