RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2013 at 7:03 pm by ronedee.)
(November 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm)Walking Void Wrote:(November 8, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ronedee Wrote: ...
As I've stated previously, you get back what you pump out. Sorry that I don't fit into your little religious mold, and I tear your world apart.
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Fungus among us! Such fitting, much thanks.
Whew... glad that worked out!
(November 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Here's the thing, though. The really important thing, that so often gets missed with all these shrill cries of persecution: the hostility isn't coming because of your religious beliefs. You're mistaking the content of the conversation with the reason behind its tone.
The fact is, every last one of us can demonstrably show christians that we talk to quite civilly, who are our friends, our family, people whom we, somehow, manage to treat perfectly neutrally despite our, apparently, persecution of christians. So what's clear, here, is that it isn't your religious beliefs that are causing the reactions here. We can look at it like an experiment; we have evidence that "religious belief," is not the variable which is causing hostility here, because it can't be applied consistently.
Therefore, it must be something else. I'll let the people actually engaged in this tell you what that is.
Personally, you may have experiences. But to assume your experiences are the rule is wrong!
Again you judge "people"! Ok they are religious.... but there are 2.2 billion Christians! Meeting 10,000 a day would take you 100 years! How many are bad, evil etc? I dunno, but it aint billions! Millions?! I don't know?
Maybe mini has been raped as a child, and thats why he constantly complains. I don't blame him! I would too! But, that is not the "rule" of the Catholic religion. Its a consequence of "evil people"! Nothing to do with God! To say it is, is just dumb. Whether you believe in God or not!
If there is no definitive answer to God, or anything to do with creation.... any experience would be testimony.
I have testimony of my experiences. I didn't say you were "wrong" in your ways of thinking! Only definitive answers that are conclusive about God or creation are wrong. Heck, I may have the Holy Spirit, but I don't have any clue of the mechanics involved of Him, creation, or otherwise! Just experiences.
I said that you as others here have every right to question me, and my belief system! As I would, and have questioned yours. I need your experiences and opinions to reinforce my belief! Or knock it out of me! Seriously!
My advantage, I feel, is that: "everything" exists. and there was a "beginning". Atheists, as others, have no explanation for it. So, I think we have an edge in what is "unknown", by all of us!
Quis ut Deus?
