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Christians forgive themselves
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm)ronedee Wrote: Personally, you may have experiences. But to assume your experiences are the rule is wrong!

So, first of all, was this even a response to me? I mean, you quoted me, but then you seemed to spin off in some completely different direction that didn't address anything I said. It's weird.

That said, I'm not just going from my experiences; I do listen when other people speak here, so I know for a fact that many other atheists, more than just me, are capable of talking to christians without "persecuting" them, making your accusation of persecution here demonstrably false by definition.

Quote:Maybe mini has been raped as a child, and thats why he constantly complains. I don't blame him! I would too! But, that is not the "rule" of the Catholic religion. Its a consequence of "evil people"! Nothing to do with God! To say it is, is just dumb. Whether you believe in God or not!

You understand that I think literally nothing is a consequence of god, because there isn't one, right? In this religious question, there is only the catholic church, from my perspective; one organization making the rules, and then breaking them as it sees fit. Whether or not it's written down as a rule makes no difference; the organization is hypocritical and harmful, and to merely make excuses that they aren't following the rules, as if that absolves you of any connection to the organization you are a part of, is just a desperate attempt to evade responsibility.

How about this? Next time a catholic sex abuse scandal comes up in the news, instead of just going "not in the rules, not our responsibility, nothing to see here," you instead repudiate the actions of those claiming to represent you and actually contribute to some positive changes?

Quote:My advantage, I feel, is that: "everything" exists. and there was a "beginning". Atheists, as others, have no explanation for it. So, I think we have an edge in what is "unknown", by all of us!

This bothers me: are you really saying that any answer, even an incorrect one, is better than actually admitting that you don't know?
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Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 2, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Marvin - November 2, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Captain Colostomy - November 2, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Simon Moon - November 2, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 2, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 2, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ThomM - November 5, 2013 at 3:37 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 6, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 2, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by WesOlsen - November 2, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Mystical - November 2, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 2, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 7, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 2, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 2, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 3, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 3, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 3, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 3, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Silver - November 3, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 4, 2013 at 4:14 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 5, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 3, 2013 at 2:42 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 4, 2013 at 3:53 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 4, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 4, 2013 at 4:36 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 4, 2013 at 4:42 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 4, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Simon Moon - November 5, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 5, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 8:02 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 10:18 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 6, 2013 at 7:14 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Jackalope - November 8, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 7, 2013 at 7:58 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 6, 2013 at 1:10 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 4, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 5, 2013 at 12:55 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 5, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 5, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 5, 2013 at 1:33 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Tonus - November 6, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 5, 2013 at 5:27 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 5, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 5, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 5, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 5, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 6, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 6, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 6, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 6, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 7, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 7, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 7, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 7, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 7, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 7, 2013 at 10:07 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Tonus - November 6, 2013 at 1:53 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Mystical - November 6, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 6, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 6, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 7, 2013 at 9:33 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 11:01 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 8, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 8, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 8, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by The Valkyrie - November 9, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Walking Void - November 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 8, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 8, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 8, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 9, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 2:55 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 9, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 9, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 9, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 7:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 10, 2013 at 1:27 am

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