(November 11, 2013 at 11:28 am)Drich Wrote:So satan decieves people intentionally on god behalf, with a end result of those people being sent to hell for rejecting his word because satan decieved them. Yet god is not evil?(November 11, 2013 at 3:18 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: If the case is such that Satan can deceive people into think he is god, then how can we know that the god of the bible isn't the evil one and Satan the true god?In Christianity God and satan are not equals. Satan is a reluctant servant of God. He only does what He is allowed to do (see the book of Job.) If Satan is the almighty, then he is getting his teeth kicked in by his nemsis. Which makes him less than 'almighty.' which means he can not be God.
Quote:Like the bible?Quote:Maybe the whole bible was written by authors that thought they were in touch with god but actually talking to Satan in order to complete the deception.Kinda like the koran and the book of Moromon? So ask yourself what seperated the bible for the book of mormon? Answer? Prophesy. Satan's books are filled with flat out wrong and unanswered prophesy. Satan is not Onmipotent therefore does not know what is comming.
Here are a few
failed prohecies Wrote:
Quote:Then it would follow that drich's method would be incorporated into the text and people would be taught to disregard anything that disagreed with those teachings in the bible because it's a deception trying to protect itself from the truth.Then what standard would one use as the word of God?
The samething they use now
Quote:Quote:Hence the bible calls for death of and/or detachment from nonbelievers, where as if it was true it would encourage dissent and challenges it too in order to prove its truth.Where does it call for this?
The buybull Wrote:2 Corinthians 6:14-17If a person can pervert the ways of the lord how much the devil who is far more powerful then us?
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord.
Acts 13:10 ESV
And said, “You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord?
Quote:Quote:However what we see in reality and the bible is very different, Paul teaches to distance yourself from non believers, moses teaches to murder them and burn their towns down, Jesus says they will burn in hell, and john backs him up in revelations.again where?
The buybull Wrote:Deut.
13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
Matthew 5:22 ESV
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
Matthew 23:33 ESV
You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?
Revelation 20:13-15 ESV
And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Need more? Because I think the bible is clear here, no matter what apologetic crap you come up with.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.