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Adrian and I disagree on faith.
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Adrian and I disagree on faith.
I somehow missed this part.

(January 19, 2010 at 7:51 am)Tiberius Wrote: Having a belief in something without having good evidence to do so. I disagree with leo's definition.

Then I'd like to hear why you do.

Quote: I don't think believing that the sun will come up tomorrow is a faith based position, since you have good reason to believe so, same with having a job next month.

I don't consider previous experience valid evidence for future events. It cannot foresee the future.

There is no valid reason to assume that the Earth will keep rotating so you will see the Sun again. Is is a matter of faith. No matter how many good reasons you have of believing that you are correct does not make it any less of an assumption. Just because we know the Earth has always done it, is not a guarantee that it will continue to rotate.

Is the Earth likely to continue? Yes. Is it certain to continue? No. Do we therefore assume that the Earth stops rotating? No. We assume that it does continue, we have to accept on faith that it doesn't stop.

As for having a job next month, that is so dependent on so many factors that you have no choice but to accept on faith that you will still have a job next month and work hard to balance the odds in your favour. There is no basis outside faith to assume so.

I am not trying to be argumentative here, but I want to see why your definition of faith is different from mine.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
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Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by leo-rcc - February 5, 2010 at 11:36 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Edwardo Piet - February 5, 2010 at 11:45 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by leo-rcc - February 5, 2010 at 11:50 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Zhalentine - February 5, 2010 at 3:25 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Purple Rabbit - February 5, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Violet - February 5, 2010 at 4:58 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Tiberius - February 5, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by leo-rcc - February 5, 2010 at 4:28 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Tiberius - February 5, 2010 at 4:33 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by leo-rcc - February 5, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Tiberius - February 5, 2010 at 5:03 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by leo-rcc - February 5, 2010 at 5:04 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by leo-rcc - February 5, 2010 at 5:20 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Tiberius - February 5, 2010 at 5:20 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by tackattack - February 6, 2010 at 1:30 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Tiberius - February 5, 2010 at 5:23 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Edwardo Piet - February 5, 2010 at 7:10 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by leo-rcc - February 5, 2010 at 7:11 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Edwardo Piet - February 6, 2010 at 6:22 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Purple Rabbit - February 6, 2010 at 9:19 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Welsh cake - February 6, 2010 at 9:43 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Purple Rabbit - February 6, 2010 at 11:04 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Welsh cake - February 6, 2010 at 1:10 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Purple Rabbit - February 6, 2010 at 2:34 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Welsh cake - February 7, 2010 at 5:19 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Purple Rabbit - February 7, 2010 at 9:10 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by leo-rcc - February 7, 2010 at 11:04 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by tackattack - February 7, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by starbucks - February 8, 2010 at 7:30 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Welsh cake - February 11, 2010 at 6:38 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by tackattack - February 11, 2010 at 10:03 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 12:35 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Tiberius - February 12, 2010 at 1:47 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Welsh cake - February 13, 2010 at 8:33 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by tavarish - February 14, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by tackattack - February 13, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by Welsh cake - February 13, 2010 at 11:26 am
RE: Adrian and I disagree on faith. - by tackattack - February 13, 2010 at 8:19 pm

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