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Poll: What do you choose
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Evolution V Creation
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RE: Evolution V Creation
I regard evolution as one of the best explanatory and predictive theories on the diversity of living organisms on Earth to date. While I'm also open to the hypothesis that viruses could be responsible for the mutations evident in many species, I do not "believe" or have "faith" in the study.


(January 26, 2010 at 10:41 am)rjh4 Wrote: It should be pretty clear from my posts elsewhere here that I believe that God created the universe. And while I do not have a problem with evolution in the sense that things/creatures change via natural selection, I reject evolution in the sense of common descent.
Which I'm fine with, except that Natural selection is a key mechanism of evolution. You either accept evolution as scientific fact or you don't rjh4. There is no in-between. You can't pick and choose like with the Bible.


(January 26, 2010 at 3:42 pm)rjh4 Wrote: So says you. You know that the classification system is manmade don't you? It is not like the classification system proves that we are animals just like all others.
That's a terrible argument that only demonstrates your ignorance. By your own omission then, we cannot use observation or deductive reasoning to class or categorise ANYTHING that exists from ANYTHING ELSE that exists. You can't attack the classification system because it's a human concept through reasoning; you're dismissing the same thing you're trying to build up a case against. Ironically though, you continually assert that man is distinguished from the rest of animal kingdom, so clearly you do have some kind arbitrary subjectively true "class system". ^^

Humour me rjh4, how do you distinguish your men's from the women's toilets?


Quote:(In fact, it is clear we are not just like all the other animals. As evidence you just need to look at the list of man's accomplishments cited by your athiest friends here. The animals have no such accomplishments. Man is far above the animals.)
(Evolution is not a ladder.)


(January 28, 2010 at 10:56 am)rjh4 Wrote: I disagree for reasons already stated.
Huh? You said earlier that you agree with the concept of Natural selection. This was the point I was making before, you can't agree and disagree with something simultaneously, so please, explain your position on Evolution.


rjh4 Wrote:I am surprised you do not know my position on that issue. As I have said many times before here, mine is a young earth creation position so I think the universe is 6000-10000 years old.
So you're saying that you disagree with Evolution purely because the biological changes to evolve from a common ancestor would've have taken a long time? Is that correct?
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Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 26, 2010 at 3:22 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 26, 2010 at 5:15 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 26, 2010 at 6:31 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 26, 2010 at 5:17 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 26, 2010 at 5:22 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 26, 2010 at 5:22 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 26, 2010 at 5:35 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - January 26, 2010 at 6:33 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 26, 2010 at 6:44 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 26, 2010 at 6:59 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 26, 2010 at 10:41 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Eilonnwy - January 26, 2010 at 11:14 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 26, 2010 at 12:17 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 26, 2010 at 2:07 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 26, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 26, 2010 at 3:42 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 26, 2010 at 4:16 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 26, 2010 at 4:31 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 27, 2010 at 8:54 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 27, 2010 at 11:51 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 27, 2010 at 12:06 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 8, 2010 at 3:03 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 8, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rockthatpiano06 - January 26, 2010 at 5:55 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Autumnlicious - January 26, 2010 at 6:57 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 26, 2010 at 8:41 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - January 27, 2010 at 5:52 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - January 27, 2010 at 6:36 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 27, 2010 at 8:58 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Autumnlicious - January 27, 2010 at 11:54 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 27, 2010 at 12:46 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 27, 2010 at 1:27 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 27, 2010 at 1:58 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 27, 2010 at 7:38 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 27, 2010 at 2:05 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zhalentine - January 27, 2010 at 4:14 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 27, 2010 at 4:23 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zhalentine - January 27, 2010 at 4:43 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Meatball - January 27, 2010 at 5:48 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 27, 2010 at 6:25 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - January 27, 2010 at 10:35 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 28, 2010 at 1:41 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 28, 2010 at 2:11 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - January 28, 2010 at 1:52 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 28, 2010 at 1:54 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - January 28, 2010 at 2:08 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - January 28, 2010 at 2:15 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - January 28, 2010 at 6:53 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 28, 2010 at 9:50 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 28, 2010 at 10:56 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 28, 2010 at 11:18 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 28, 2010 at 11:47 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 28, 2010 at 11:51 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 28, 2010 at 12:37 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 28, 2010 at 7:35 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - January 29, 2010 at 12:13 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Dotard - January 30, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - January 28, 2010 at 12:54 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 28, 2010 at 1:49 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 28, 2010 at 2:06 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - January 28, 2010 at 2:34 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Welsh cake - February 6, 2010 at 7:40 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by solidsquid - February 7, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TruthWorthy - February 8, 2010 at 1:05 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 8, 2010 at 12:44 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 8, 2010 at 3:34 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 8, 2010 at 5:15 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TruthWorthy - February 8, 2010 at 6:47 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 9, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 9:27 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 9, 2010 at 9:58 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 10:15 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 10, 2010 at 6:41 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 10, 2010 at 10:09 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 11, 2010 at 7:40 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 11, 2010 at 11:11 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 7:23 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 12, 2010 at 9:32 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 11:41 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 13, 2010 at 10:18 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 13, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 14, 2010 at 10:27 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 14, 2010 at 2:52 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 15, 2010 at 6:44 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:04 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2010 at 6:33 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 9:34 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2010 at 10:08 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 10:26 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2010 at 10:25 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 10, 2010 at 11:07 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2010 at 11:32 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 10, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TruthWorthy - February 9, 2010 at 6:58 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TruthWorthy - February 9, 2010 at 9:31 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 9, 2010 at 10:18 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 9, 2010 at 10:28 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 10:43 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 9, 2010 at 11:25 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 2:17 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 9, 2010 at 3:30 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 5:22 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 9, 2010 at 6:11 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 10, 2010 at 11:20 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 10, 2010 at 12:55 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 10, 2010 at 2:04 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 11, 2010 at 9:11 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 11, 2010 at 11:31 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 11, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 15, 2010 at 10:05 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tackattack - February 12, 2010 at 7:42 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 13, 2010 at 2:53 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 13, 2010 at 12:47 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 14, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 15, 2010 at 9:45 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 15, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 16, 2010 at 11:07 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2010 at 6:53 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2010 at 1:30 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 16, 2010 at 7:29 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 14, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 16, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 16, 2010 at 1:54 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 16, 2010 at 4:21 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by padraic - February 17, 2010 at 12:37 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 17, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 17, 2010 at 7:11 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 17, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 18, 2010 at 6:29 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 11:03 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - February 18, 2010 at 2:57 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 18, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by theVOID - February 19, 2010 at 2:23 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - February 18, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 1:26 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 18, 2010 at 2:41 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2010 at 4:05 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - February 19, 2010 at 1:45 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Shell B - February 19, 2010 at 1:59 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Shell B - February 19, 2010 at 2:27 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by theVOID - February 19, 2010 at 2:55 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - February 19, 2010 at 5:19 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Shell B - February 19, 2010 at 3:00 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by theVOID - February 19, 2010 at 3:13 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Shell B - February 19, 2010 at 3:16 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 19, 2010 at 10:26 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 19, 2010 at 11:19 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - February 19, 2010 at 10:35 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - February 19, 2010 at 11:27 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 19, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by padraic - February 19, 2010 at 6:14 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Ashes1995 - February 21, 2010 at 4:49 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by padraic - February 21, 2010 at 9:17 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 21, 2010 at 11:02 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by garbishcan - January 12, 2013 at 6:06 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Aractus - January 12, 2013 at 7:24 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TaraJo - January 12, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - January 14, 2013 at 1:58 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by paulpablo - January 12, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 12, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by pocaracas - January 12, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by garbishcan - January 14, 2013 at 1:36 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by garbishcan - January 14, 2013 at 8:19 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - January 14, 2013 at 8:29 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - January 14, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - January 15, 2013 at 3:53 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - January 20, 2013 at 5:42 pm

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