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The title of the thread is in fact a book, published in 1967. A small blue book 'refuting' evolution.
I began to read it and to my dismay, creationists arguements have not evolved at all! They are the same from 40 years ago! Should we expect any different? After all, they oppose evolution. If their arguements had evolved, they would be hypocrites! However, most creationists do believe in micro evolution and one can see they have micro evolved. From little blue books in the 60s to cool flash websites like Answers in Genesis...
Anyways, my point is, until, if ever, creationists have any convincing scientific arguements, all threads contending evolution should not be classified as science or in this part of the forum!
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
RE: Did man get here by evolution or by creation???
September 12, 2010 at 7:38 pm
(September 12, 2010 at 12:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: "creationists arguements have not evolved at all! They are the same from 40 years ago"
And this surprises you?
I think you'll find many of the arguments have been used since Darwin's time. Most noticeably,the teleological argument. (argument from design)
RE: Did man get here by evolution or by creation???
April 6, 2011 at 7:56 am
(April 6, 2011 at 7:36 am)justmoha2005 Wrote: In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful
1. When the earth is shaken with its (final) earthquake.2. And when the earth throws out its burdens,3. And man will say: "What is
the matter with it?"4. That Day it will declare its information (about all what happened over it of good or evil).5. Because your Lord
has inspired it.6. That Day mankind will proceed in scattered groups that they may be shown their deeds.7. So whosoever does
good equal to the weight of an atom (or a small ant), shall see it.8. And whosoever does evil equal to the weight of an atom (or a
small ant), shall see it.
In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful
1. Al-Qari'ah (the striking Hour i.e. the Day of Resurrection),2. What is the striking (Hour)?3. And what will make you know what the
striking (Hour) is?4. It is a Day whereon mankind will be like moths scattered about,5. And the mountains will be like carded wool,
6. Then as for him whose balance (of good deeds) will be heavy,7. He will live a pleasant life (in Paradise).8. But as for him whose
balance (of good deeds) will be light,9. He will have his home in Hawiyah (pit, i.e. Hell).10. And what will make you know what it is?
11. (It is) a hot blazing Fire!
In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful
1. Say (O Muhammad ()): "He is Allah, (the) One.2. "Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither
eats nor drinks).3. "He begets not, nor was He begotten;4. "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him
I wonder which one is stronger, the spam hammer or the ban hammer?
Quote:"I think it's perfectly possible to explain how the universe came about without bringing God into it, but I don't know everything, and there may well be a God somewhere, hiding away. Actually, if he is keeping out of sight, it's because he's ashamed of his followers and all the cruelty and ignorance they're responsible for promoting in his name. If I were him, I'd want nothing to do with them."
— Philip Pullman
RE: Did man get here by evolution or by creation???
April 6, 2011 at 10:10 am
(September 12, 2010 at 9:19 am)solja247 Wrote: The title of the thread is in fact a book, published in 1967. A small blue book 'refuting' evolution.
LOL I actually have this book, I found it in my grandma's house. It certainly gave me a good laugh, but I was sad to think that the majority of people in the world don't have the science background to see past the weak arguments within in. People are still swallowing creationism today, after all. It doesn't seem to require new, evolved, better arguments, just an uneducated audience.
RE: Did man get here by evolution or by creation???
April 6, 2011 at 10:31 am
(September 12, 2010 at 9:19 am)solja247 Wrote:
The title of the thread is in fact a book, published in 1967. A small blue book 'refuting' evolution.
I began to read it and to my dismay, creationists arguements have not evolved at all! They are the same from 40 years ago! Should we expect any different? After all, they oppose evolution. If their arguements had evolved, they would be hypocrites! However, most creationists do believe in micro evolution and one can see they have micro evolved. From little blue books in the 60s to cool flash websites like Answers in Genesis...
Anyways, my point is, until, if ever, creationists have any convincing scientific arguements, all threads contending evolution should not be classified as science or in this part of the forum!
Of course the arguments haven't changed. Because these people generally don't care whether or not what they're saying is actually true, as long as it supports their warped worldview; so it doesn't matter how often their arguments are refuted, they'll just keep on recycling them.
Justmoha2005: Reported for spamming irrelevant verses from your magic book.
Galileo was a man of science oppressed by the irrational and superstitious. Today, he is used by the irrational and superstitious who claim they are being oppressed by science - Mark Crislip
RE: Did man get here by evolution or by creation???
April 7, 2011 at 6:33 am
(September 12, 2010 at 9:19 am)solja247 Wrote: The title of the thread is in fact a book, published in 1967. A small blue book 'refuting' evolution.
I began to read it and to my dismay, creationists arguements have not evolved at all! They are the same from 40 years ago! Should we expect any different? After all, they oppose evolution. If their arguements had evolved, they would be hypocrites! However, most creationists do believe in micro evolution and one can see they have micro evolved. From little blue books in the 60s to cool flash websites like Answers in Genesis...
Anyways, my point is, until, if ever, creationists have any convincing scientific arguements, all threads contending evolution should not be classified as science or in this part of the forum!
The Micro/Macro thing is a misnoma, there is no difference. It's one of those things like "kind" that have no scientific basis or working definition.
It's no surprise that their arguments are just as bad, evolution is just as much of a fact.