RE: anyone else here not pro life for the sake of being pro life?
November 14, 2013 at 10:47 pm
(This post was last modified: November 14, 2013 at 10:48 pm by Mystical.)
Let's just say I'm pro choice here. I'm pretty sure I said that already, in a roundabout way. I'm pro life for myself, but I'm pro choice for others. I'm just willing to fight them on it and I'm willing to talk about the ethics of it. Every dark and dirty detail.
I'm asking for the best argument this side has to offer, and I have yet to find anything (other than the terminally ill or in severe untreatable pain) that would sway someone pro-life, which is what I was not too long ago.
I don't see anyone stopping you from killing yourself, but that said I think if you get to that point you're most likely in need of treatment not death. There are some who meet the reality of a life in utter desolate pain, sufferring, no quality of life, etc. that I agree with in their want to end their life. If there is no quality of life due to the body's inability to ensure it and external inability to provide it: I'd agree with your decision to end it. Otherwise.. If we can talk about it first lets talk about it case by case.
I'm asking for the best argument this side has to offer, and I have yet to find anything (other than the terminally ill or in severe untreatable pain) that would sway someone pro-life, which is what I was not too long ago.
I don't see anyone stopping you from killing yourself, but that said I think if you get to that point you're most likely in need of treatment not death. There are some who meet the reality of a life in utter desolate pain, sufferring, no quality of life, etc. that I agree with in their want to end their life. If there is no quality of life due to the body's inability to ensure it and external inability to provide it: I'd agree with your decision to end it. Otherwise.. If we can talk about it first lets talk about it case by case.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.