Adrian and I disagree on faith.

[Purple Rabbit]

How do you arrive from celestial mechanics at your conclusion that faith goes out the window?

It was leo-rcc's premise that we can't know anything for sure like, 'the Sun rising in the morning', therefore we need the persuasion of faith to give us the confidence that Earth will rotate. I don't have this outlook on knowledge, with regards to pondering on absolute certainties, its nothing more than a red herring.

It would be a red herring if leo was deliberately trying to divert from the subject. He clearly isn't. He is elaborating on what we can know. That's totally on subject. The inability you show to grasp what he is saying does not amount to him raising another subject.

To the best of our knowledge the Earth has rotated for a long time, its physical, it conforms to the laws of physics that govern the universe, thus through empirical evidence and repeatability we can determine the Earth will continue to do so for a long time. As a method of investigation of giving the most consistently reliable results faith is useless. It fails in distinguishing what is true from false within the context of reality and practical knowledge.

As I understand leo, nothing of this is refuted by him. The point is that 'to the best of our knowledge' does not necessarily equal 'truth'. About truth we should be precise. We should be careful to not overstate the claim. Leo is just being careful and precise. The model of the world created by man does not dictate reality. There is no logical reason why the model should work for future events. This is where the empirical scientific method differs from deductive mathematical reasoning. This is acknowledged by science itself and known as the Problem of Induction. Please read up on it.

I don't have faith, I don't assert truth onto anything that manifests itself until I understand it better through the scientific method.

And still you cannot claim absolute truth when you're done with that. All scientific truths are tentative truths. Just as your mechanical account of movement of celestial bodies was a tentative one that was replaced by the more accurate relativistic account that Einstein formulated.