RE: Theists, are you immune to being decieved?
November 19, 2013 at 4:49 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2013 at 4:55 pm by The Reality Salesman01.)
(November 19, 2013 at 4:23 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:I agree. I think the problem here is the stigma that goes with something being a delusion. It doesn't imply that people have a mental illness, and thereby are delusional across the board!(November 19, 2013 at 10:30 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Usually delusional people show signs of their problem in multiple contexts, like interpersonal relations. I don't see how you could claim that an otherwise competing person is delusional just because they have interpreted a very small number of experiences differently than you would.
True. There is a difference between being mistaken about something and being delusional. 'Squirrels report my activities to the NSA' is a delusion. 'I believe what I was raised to believe and what most people important to me believe' may be a mistake, it may reflect a failure to examine the belief closely and objectively, but it's not a delusion in the sense of being a symptom of mental illness.
Until fairly recently, I believed Daddy Longlegs were dangerously poisonous. If I trusted my parents and pastor more than anonymous scientists on such matters, I might still believe it.
A single belief can be a delusion in this sense:
DELUSION- a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary
It's a bit more than merely interpreting a few things differently. What makes one interpret these things in that way is much more relevant to determining whether or not the interpretation is a delusion.
"I have a personal relationship with the creator of the cosmos, and he intervenes in my life. He speaks to me, and motivates my decisions."
There is a load of things going on here aside from "interpreting a few things differently".
(November 19, 2013 at 4:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ The Reality Salesman, do you remember what I said in another thread, "that your mouth does not contain enough words to convince me there's no God", well now you've provided the proof. You've spewed enough contrite babble that you have to be getting dizzy... if you get the drift.
You want to convince people there's no God with nothing more than question, where is you evidence, you say you would be willing to change your view if we present evidence to you, yet you are not willing to apply the same logic to yourself, now if that isn't delusional. So why do you not bring proof to us, such a simple way to put all this to a rest, yet you avoid it like the plague.
GC
Your insults don't add much to the conversation, but they are indicative of your ignorance. You've demonstrated a lack of understanding of virtually every concept associated with this topic in several threads. There is absolutely no reason to think that you and I could have a productive exchange of ideas. Especially when I have to take time explaining to you the definitions of the words you use. I would even be willing to bet that you didn't bother watching the video, or reading any of the other responses, and skipped straight to the end so you could make baseless accusations.