(November 19, 2013 at 11:39 am)Drich Wrote: Look at what was accomplished by God taking the approach that He did with the 12. Now look at what the 'broader approach' did for Israel. The path of Christianity eventually lead to 'freedom' FROM Religion. The Broader approach empowered a hand full of croupt men to subjugate an entire race of people.So let me get this straight Drich. Your argument for why God's logically inferior method of letting his creations take the reigns is better is because of... freedom of religion as a result? What? Had God himself done the job (which was the suggestion you completely dodged), it would have been executed perfectly, oon your worldview. Comparing what men alone did to what God would logically be capable of doing is 1) The kind of illogical BS we've come to expect from you and 2) Practically bordering on heresy.
Quote:So again, do with the gentiles what he did with the jews? Do you not understand God was not happy with how the jews governed themselves? That He did not want them to worship the method of worship? Rather be from from the legalism and methodology? So why would He do the exact same thing with Christianity if it did not work with Judaism?
God didn't physically guide the Jews. If he was unhappy how the Jews governed themselves, he could have made it explicit by demonstrating indisputably to them that he was God in a way that could not be denied. What you suggest Drich is a being who can't figure out that, duh, Herp de derp if they don't realize it's actually me (God) commanding this they won't listen. And if I don't tell them such that they cannot mistake it, it won't happen.
Quote:Again it completly depended on God's end goal. Your way=Slavery to the religion and religious leaders, God's way=Eventually lead to freedom from religion and a direct relationship with God.
No. If God himself did what he wanted to enact, we would have not only a personal relationship with him, we would have direct, incontrovertible proof that would keep us from failing to realize the supposed truth.
Quote:What are you talking about?
Since you completely ignored his bit about God doing it himself, of course you didn't understand that part. He was saying that don't try the nonsensical defense that somehow God revealing himself such that we know he exists transgresses free-will as a reason why God doesn't and hasn't done so, certainly not to everyone if he exists and does do it.
