(February 8, 2010 at 7:51 am)starbucks Wrote: But couldn't they just do that under secular organizations? Why do they have to be a separate organization specific to atheists?
Atheist organisations aren't very common, but are a place where you can exchange ideas with like-minded individuals, just like any demographic has their organisations. Why is it weird that there is an Atheist organisation and not that there are auto clubs?
Also, secular organisations would not necessarily be Atheists, a lot of smaller religious groups fighting for their right to not have anyone else's belief shoved down their throats just like Atheists are. It's a sort of common-ground against malignant religions.
Quote:Plus, it is everybody's right to voice their opinions (which is obviously going to reflect their personal beliefs) to their government because those policies will affect them, too. Obviously, they want lawmakers to enforce policies that align with the kind of society they want. Thus, Christians have every bit of right as gays, blacks and other minorities, etc. to push for overall policies that eventually affect them as well.
Christian groups often aren't interested in policies that affect them, they are interested in affecting other people by blocking civil rights for other religions, the non religious, gays, women etc. I have no problem with them being political on political issues, none at all, it's when they try to take someone elses liberty that i have a problem.
Quote:It sounds like what you're asking for is censorship on religious teachings.
In state schools yes, teaching religion in school also impacts on non-religious students and students from other religions. If you remove religion from schools and make it a personal pursuit you don't have people suffering through laws and lessons they want nothing to do with.
If the school is a private Christian school then they can teach whatever religious dogma they like.
Quote: Personally, I think everything should be put out on the table and each person can make their own decision about things. I really don't think children are getting over exposed when there are so many other stuff in the world that is non-religious thrown at them.
I'm afraid that doesn't make too much sense, would you care to clarify?
Quote: And trust me, it isn't just religious groups that are against homosexuality. There are many cultures that are dead set against it. They're also against abortion as well. Plus, even women who have had abortions aren't so proud about it either.
I'm not only against religious groups taking away civil liberty, i am against anyone doing it.
Quote:If it's a right, why do they have to hide it?
Who's right? and hiding what?
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