(November 22, 2013 at 6:53 am)Firstruth Wrote: ok, being saved from hell is being saved from being born over and over into the present condition of 'desire' that can't be fulfilled by anything no matter what you do. If that isn't your situation or condition then hell will not mean much to you according to the Bible. It seems only those persons who come to the last level of ego consciousness (Maslov's hierarchy of needs) will you discover you are really in hell right here. Jesus is the name that means 'salvation of Yhvh' and his name means' I am that I am and I will be what I will be" showing a definite aim of evolution here. So Jesus is the "WAY" yhvh saves us, which is by 'entering us' (our desire) as the 'good will or intention' that fulfills it and transforms our sense of reality to a higher consciousness or consciousness of the source of all fulfillment.
Before I try to sort out much of that word salad Can you tell us what denomination you are? Do you claim that the bible is the literal word of god?
If so can you point to the verse where we are born multiple times in sinful desire?
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