(November 20, 2013 at 9:27 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: I'll waste no time and concede that there's something I don't know in the interest of displaying intellectual honesty.
A noble concession. However, you do not seem to have any issue with believing in that which you cannot account for. You espouse naturalism and yet you cannot explain how natural laws can exist in accordance with this natural materialism.
Quote: Now, will you admit that within the Theist worldview, you cannot account for the existence of God without special pleading?
The existence of Yahweh is a necessary presupposition of the Christian worldview; natural laws are not a necessary presupposition of a materialist worldview.
Quote: If you are honest, your worldview is no more complete than mine, but I don't pretend to have answers that I don't have.
Sure it is! The existence of natural laws makes perfect sense in the context of my worldview; they apparently do not make any sense in yours. We both believe such laws exist, but apparently only I can account for them.
(November 20, 2013 at 9:30 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Did you know I created the universe? I did! I went back in time, in my (one use, destroyed upon return trip) time machine, and I created the universe, formatting the laws of it based upon my experiences of them while I was inside the universe. It's a stable time loop, dependent upon my existence, and since I used materials from the world to accomplish this, it's entirely consistent with materialism.
My goodness; tell me exactly how you used materials to create immaterial laws?
Category errors abound!Secondly, are you really going to concede that natural laws have to be the creation of an intelligent and creative entity? You’re beginning to sound like a theist.
