(November 24, 2013 at 9:24 am)themonkeyman Wrote:(November 24, 2013 at 5:09 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: You do realize if you do not have a deadline, instead of spending your time worshipping god you'd have spent your time waiting for god and eventually that dream will happen and you will spend your remaining time worshipping god.. Like rearranging the stars in the sky to spell out your name clearly.
Quite defeats the purpose of trying to find out if there's a god: to figure out if you should spend time abiding biblical rules.
Actually, anything can happen in dreams which makes it much less likely that it was god. You should pick something that's really hard to do, then if it happens, you know it's likely to be god, at least, the pool of possible candidates that could've caused it is will be much much smaller
I know that anything can happen which is why I am choosing a Dream because if there is even a chance of a 'Fluke' then it will be through a dream.
Re-arranging the stars for my name is not really possible as that defies physics and for some reason we are unable to measure 'God' except when he talks to us.
So my thinking is that I want to see real proof.
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If I were to receive a clear message from a deity the first thing that I would check is -- am I awake? If it were a dream I would discount it as just that.
If I were awake and I could see a clear, testable violation of the laws of physics, then i could be convinced.
As I tell believers -- I have no personal emotional attachment to being an atheist. If I were to actually see unambiguous evidence for a grand cosmic whatnot -- i'd believe in the thing.
Dreams are not evidence.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste -- don't pollute it with bullshit.
