RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
November 26, 2013 at 2:44 pm
(November 26, 2013 at 10:54 am)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote: The two-way speed of light is isotropic in ASC - It's only the one-way speed that would be anisotropic. So the one-way speed could be 50 billion times faster than c.
Except that there is no evidence whatsoever that that is the case.
OM Wrote:Now this isn't evidence for a 10,000 year old universe. It doesn't even suggest a 10,000 year old universe. But it does mean that the speed of light is not an adequate argument against a 10,000 year old universe. Well, not unless simultaneity can be shown to be velocity dependent rather than position dependent.
I'm convinced that this is where Lisle's ASC is gonna fall flat on it's arse, it's just a case of finding the right place to give it a nudge
Except that one could argue from symmetry and make a perfectly reasonable argument that we would expect the one-way speed of light to be the same or nearly the same to the tiniest fraction of a percent as the two-way speed of light. Why? There is no scientific reason to suppose otherwise, no physical property of light that would support it being other than symmetrical and constant. Once again, we are talking tiny fractions of a difference, and no matter how you count up those differences, you can NEVER get a 10,000 year old universe. Ever. So your claim that it isn't an adequate argument against a 10,000 year old universe just doesn't fly.
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