RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
November 27, 2013 at 12:53 am
(November 26, 2013 at 8:16 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote:(November 26, 2013 at 7:54 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: Even if a one way measurement of the speed of light doesn't give you a precise, to the nanometer measurement.
It doesn't matter, it is sufficient to demonstrate that it isn't infinite.
And that is all you need to debunk Lisles hokum.
No it isn't sufficient, that's the whole point. It's got nothing to do with the accuracy of measurements, it's about having to assume an isotropic convention in order to measure the one-way speed. If you read up on it, you'll see why it debunks absolutely nothing. In an anisotropic convention, time dilation is caused by a change position, not velocity. So if you synchronise two "clocks", you lose all certainty of them remaining synchronised as soon as you move them.
It is not unreasonable, given the laws of physics, to assume that the one way speed of light is (within a fraction of a fraction of a unit of measure) equivalent to the two way speed of light. That measuring that one-way speed may be problematic is not evidence in support of a 10,000 year old universe, which is what the warped one is trying to do. If you measure the one-way speed of light between two points that are, say 100 meters apart, the difference between the synchronization of the clocks will be so tiny as to be utterly negligible.
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"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
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