And Hells come back to haunt me

[Esquilax]

drifting off the question again. a principle of science is take the simplest explanation.

Occam's Razor is not a scientific principle, and if you're talking about some other thing, please present it, because right now it just looks like you're pulling shit out of your ass.

we observe the U., is there anything is our observation that would negate it being created? if there is, show and prove it.

Dodging the burden of proof, are we? It's not up to us to disprove every crazy little idea that pops into your head; you made the claim, the burden of proof is on you to prove it.

this proof thing is something the atheists just love to resort to like pimply face adolescent bullies on a playground shouting 'prove it'. that's the mantra touted over here by science-based thinkers. so if there is a more complicated methodogy than creation (what's simpler than that?), give the proof since in your minds an observation has been detected that invalidated creationism.

Literally every part of your contention here is dead wrong.