(February 12, 2010 at 2:00 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Resort to personal insult again huh+1 fallacy to you
I've been reading along to many of your posts, none of which shed any light on anything, other than the fact that you can't understand the basic concepts of logic and reasoned arguments. You dodge questions left and right, and when you do give answers, they're dismissive of any of the concepts spoken about. God cannot be verified, yet the Bible describes him and has detailed portrayals of his intentions, attitudes and transgressions. Most of it can be relayed to the realm of history research, many elements of which are verifiable and falsifiable. Unless the bible is completely allegorical and bears no resemblance to anything requiring rational thought to digest.
(February 12, 2010 at 2:00 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: How would any of us know where our first thoughts originated ...there's a whole world of influences out there. I was raised in a non religious family with no direct influence like that BTW.
How do I know reality is real? Am I really typing this?
(February 12, 2010 at 2:00 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I haven't moved position at all as you frivolously state. Of course you're simply trying to float a smokescreen as you've seen Evie play the card with some success. God, by his nature is not independently verifiable. Christians can verify God _personally_, and can confirm and test this with others adopting the belief.
This is why you should read your posts before you hit the "Post reply" button. You have a sentence saying God is not independently verifiable, then say in the next sentence that Christians can verify God. To prove his existence you would ALREADY have to assume he exists on the basis of no observable evidence. What kind of ass backwards reasoning is that? If something is testable, it is testable everywhere, not just in the confines of a group of like-minded people.
That's like me saying for me to become an astronaut, I have to first fly the space shuttle.