Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does

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Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does

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RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does

December 4, 2013 at 6:28 pm (This post was last modified: December 4, 2013 at 6:31 pm by pocaracas.)

(December 4, 2013 at 6:22 pm)apophenia Wrote: I'm going to delete that post yet.

Why? You don't like it?
I think that post should be given its own thread and stickied somewhere for quick reference when someone comes by using this argument.

(December 4, 2013 at 6:22 pm)apophenia Wrote: For another take.... http://arxiv.org/abs/1112.4647

70 pages? I find your version much easier to read! Smile

(December 4, 2013 at 6:20 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I don't think that is the point of this argument, though he did fudge in there some silly mathematical calculations perhaps to make his argument sound better.

Whenever someone argues that everything is random and then claims that each iteration had an infinitesimal chance of occurring, they are using the fine tuning argument.

You can also read something about it here: http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?t...g_argument

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Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 1, 2013 at 5:44 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by houseofcantor - December 1, 2013 at 5:54 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 1, 2013 at 5:58 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by houseofcantor - December 1, 2013 at 7:19 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me - by Angrboda - December 1, 2013 at 6:18 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by bennyboy - December 1, 2013 at 7:00 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by pocaracas - December 1, 2013 at 7:10 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 1, 2013 at 11:17 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Angrboda - December 1, 2013 at 11:35 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by pocaracas - December 2, 2013 at 6:14 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 2, 2013 at 3:41 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by pocaracas - December 2, 2013 at 4:13 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 2:24 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 8:50 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by bennyboy - December 2, 2013 at 10:19 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 2, 2013 at 3:26 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 11:29 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 2, 2013 at 3:34 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Angrboda - December 2, 2013 at 9:38 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by genkaus - December 4, 2013 at 6:23 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 4, 2013 at 5:44 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by genkaus - December 5, 2013 at 3:18 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 5, 2013 at 2:49 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by genkaus - December 5, 2013 at 4:08 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me - by Angrboda - December 5, 2013 at 6:08 pm

RE: Fine tuning - by pocaracas - December 4, 2013 at 5:59 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 4, 2013 at 6:20 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 8, 2013 at 12:30 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Angrboda - December 4, 2013 at 6:22 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by pocaracas - December 4, 2013 at 6:28 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me - by Angrboda - December 5, 2013 at 3:25 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 5, 2013 at 11:14 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 5, 2013 at 3:41 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 5, 2013 at 3:54 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility - by xpastor - December 15, 2013 at 6:18 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Angrboda - December 16, 2013 at 3:59 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. - by xpastor - December 16, 2013 at 8:05 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Neo-Scholastic - December 16, 2013 at 10:39 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 16, 2013 at 12:23 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Neo-Scholastic - December 16, 2013 at 1:49 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 16, 2013 at 7:16 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Neo-Scholastic - December 16, 2013 at 8:52 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Whateverist - December 16, 2013 at 9:35 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Neo-Scholastic - December 16, 2013 at 9:40 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 17, 2013 at 12:47 am

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