Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

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Creation can only happen at a point in time. Time doesn't exist outside of the universe. Therefore, it is impossible for a god to use magic to create the universe if time doesn't exist outside of it. God's power and magic are the same thing.

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The U. had a beginning, an undisputed scientific fact. Since time began with the U. The U. didn't cause itself, it's an effect.
the 2 principles of cause and effect are: cause always proceeds effect and the cause is always greater than the effect.

the U. is dimensional (4), time is one.

Terrible argument.

How can cause proceed effect without time?

If time is a part of the universe it isn't possible to talk about "before" the universe, only outside of it.

If there is time outside of the universe then it may not work in the same way as it does within the universe. It may be possible that effect happens before or concurrently with cause - we simply do not know.

Further- if you are going to bring causality into the discussion then you have to address what God's material cause was for the creation of the universe. In your case you have God as the efficient cause but there would have to be a material cause. We have no examples of efficient cause without a material cause (although we do have examples of the reverse - material cause without efficient cause).

If God created the universe from nothing then that is outside of causality as we understand it and citing causality in your argument undermines your position that God did it.

Finally - please explain how the cause is greater than the effect in the following case:

I fire a small amount of Uranium 235 into a larger amount such that the total exceeds Uranium's critical mass and Nagasaki is destroyed.

The energy put into the firing is less than 1000th of 1% of the result.