RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 5, 2013 at 11:46 pm
(December 5, 2013 at 11:15 pm)snowtracks Wrote: i asked for some non-creations alternative ideas to explain the U.; and not one do i get.
Liar; you've had page after page of people doing exactly this.
(December 5, 2013 at 11:15 pm)snowtracks Wrote: so no proofs, no evidence, and not any ideas.
Yes, we know your position already. No need to describe it for us.
(December 5, 2013 at 11:15 pm)snowtracks Wrote: thought someone would be chomping at the bit to lay it on the line. probably everyone wanted to say 'nothing' but knew that wouldn't fly.
No, that's just in your head. But if it makes you feel better about yourself to deride everyone else en masse, who are we to say ye nay. Very sad, though.
(December 5, 2013 at 11:15 pm)snowtracks Wrote: just exactly what exactly was it you saw in observation that convince you that creation wasn't correct.
Well, among other things, the fact that it explains exactly nothing about how it's supposed to work. The fact that it depends on mountains of lies to propogate. The fact that those who are responsible for selling it have a political agenda for accumulating power and wealth from the gullible without attempting to put in the work necessary to achieve them legitimately. The fact that it is not merely unsupported by the consensus of evidence about reality, it's actually 180° about-face from it. The fact that it leeches off the body of genuine scientific disciplines that actually further human understanding. But saddest of all, the fact that the followers of the faith who want to convince me of its truth are only doing so out of a desperate need to make their magic storybook work.
(December 5, 2013 at 11:15 pm)snowtracks Wrote: was it something along the road one day, or on a mountain top; or maybe it some stern aunt that was overly righteous?
If you like, yes.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'