RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 6, 2013 at 1:59 pm
(December 6, 2013 at 12:03 pm)Chuck Wrote:(December 5, 2013 at 10:30 pm)orogenicman Wrote: But then, if you measure the signal in the wires hundreds to thousands of times and get the same results, I think it is safe to say that the signal is going to be the same during the experiment. As a check, you run the experiment over and over again. But at some point you have to agree with Einstein that "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result".
It is Okay to expect that doing the same thing over and over again can lead to different result if you can:
1. Propose a test to detect when the result is different
2. Propose a verifiable underlying mechanism that could cause the result to be difference.
It is pure intellectual dishonesty to assert doing the same thing over and over again will lead to or has led to different result when you:
1. can't propose a test that would show the difference.
2. Can't propose any verifiable underlying mechansim that can account for the difference.
The latter describes the anisotropic light propogation bullshit.
(December 5, 2013 at 10:30 pm)orogenicman Wrote: By the way, an electrical wire propagates electrons, not photons. Yeah, I know, it's a moot point, but still a point.
By quantum theory, flow of electrons in a wire is still facilitated by virtual emission and absorption of photons.
I stand corrected.
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
