Challenging the Atheist belief

[Natedeezy]

Ur missing the point, dewd! Again, what IS natural!? And more importantly, you are assuming the sharpie has a maker. There is no proof for these people. So your example of leaves and trees makes no sense for this example as we know leaves come from trees.

Do you think the person in the example would assume the Sharpie had a maker, instead of thinking it no different than a flower or a frog or a seashell?

There's no way of knowing, that's very subjective to the individual, I'm assuming they are atheist and since I am not one, that's why I was asking.

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The point is, sharpie, watch, dildo, the object doesn't matter. There is no proof that it was created, maybe there was a sharpie tree that existed long ago? We don't know. The same goes for fruit, or humans, or the universe, etc.. There's no proof we/it was created, and there is no proof the Earth is "natural", our definition of natural is limited to our experience. Therefore, based on atheism, which is: disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods (creator)..even though there is intelligence in the design of sharpie or fruit or human or universe, since there is no proof the creator exists, there is no belief.

Sooo, how can one argue that the sharpie, in the eyes of an atheist, has no proof of a creator, when we understand that "natural" is limited to our current perceptions?