(February 15, 2010 at 9:45 am)rjh4 Wrote: So it seems your argument assumes a naturalistic explanation of the first anscestor(s) and because the odds would be astronomical for more than one anscestor having genetically similar RNA you assume there must have been only one. So the abiogenesis argument does come into play here but I think you previously indicated that it was an entirely separate issue. So while common descent may not require the assumption of a single original life form, it is assumptions that lead you there nonetheless and not necessarily the evidence alone.My argument had nothing to do with an explanation of the first ancestors. I never mentioned abiogenesis...
Just to clarify, mentioning first ancestors doesn't at all mean I am talking about where they came from. I am required to talk about first ancestors because your question involved them, and your question was about common descent. Common descent is related to the first ancestors, in that all life has to be related in some way to a first ancestor. This has nothing to do with where that ancestor came from.
Even if God had created the first ancestor, or ancestors, what happened from then on is documented in the genetic makeup of life. My points about what could have happened still hold. These points are based on evidence, not assumptions. I made no assumptions about the origins of the first ancestors, nor did I have to. You gave me two scenarios (one first ancestor, many first ancestors) and I worked to interpret the evidence for each position. I pointed out to you that the chances of their being many first ancestors were almost impossible, and this is why the accepted view of science is that there was only one.
I thought I explained myself clearly, it is sad you had to twist my words to try and make it seem like I am working on assumptions here. Please don't do it again.