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Who create God?
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RE: Who create God?
(December 11, 2013 at 7:28 am)Nineteen Wrote: No need to understand the description of the description for a description of something.


This literally makes no coherent sense.

(December 11, 2013 at 7:28 am)Nineteen Wrote: So if you were found a piece of a structure on moon , for example a refrigerator or pyramid, you would think that it was designed by an entity with a mind and this would be legitimate explanation from a scientific perspective. But does not mean this perspective is wrong if you cant find the designer and this also does not mean this structures were spontaneously occurred.

Ok, let's take your 'pyramid' example. We know from experience that pyramids are made by intelligent entities (in the ancient Egyptian case: Humans). You therefore cannot use this to extrapolate to the entire universe, that is called a fallacy of composition: Using one part example and extrapolating it to the whole. We do not know from personal experience that universes require intelligent agents to bring them into existence. This is exactly like using an argument like this:

1)The Earth is in a solar system.
2)There are other solar systems.
3)Therefore there is an Earth in every solar system.

By using simple, part relationships (such as a builder to a building), and extrapolating it to something beyond it, can lead to wrong conclusions.

But I want to go further with debunking this, and I'll even give you an entire mile in this argument, given how much of a smartass I am. OK, I'll concede to your whole position: let's assume you are right, there is a 'designer'. Did he design cancer, malaria and aids? Wink
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Who create God? - by Little Rik - November 29, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Who create God? - by max-greece - November 29, 2013 at 9:43 am
RE: Who create God? - by Freedom of thought - December 10, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Kayenneh - November 29, 2013 at 10:02 am
RE: Who create God? - by Nine - November 29, 2013 at 10:24 am
RE: Who create God? - by Little Rik - November 29, 2013 at 10:26 am
RE: Who create God? - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 29, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Kayenneh - November 29, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - November 29, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Who create God? - by Nine - November 29, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - November 29, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Who create God? - by Captain Colostomy - November 29, 2013 at 10:52 am
RE: Who create God? - by Bad Wolf - November 29, 2013 at 10:53 am
RE: Who create God? - by Whateverist - November 29, 2013 at 11:16 am
RE: Who create God? - by paulpablo - November 29, 2013 at 11:16 am
RE: Who create God? - by Minimalist - November 29, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - November 29, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - November 29, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Who create God? - by freedomfromforum - November 29, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Bad Writer - November 29, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Whateverist - November 29, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - November 29, 2013 at 3:24 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Silver - November 29, 2013 at 1:20 pm
RE: Who create God? - by houseofcantor - November 29, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Simon Moon - November 29, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Kayenneh - November 29, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - November 29, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - November 29, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Who create God? - by houseofcantor - November 29, 2013 at 3:33 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Silver - November 29, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Kayenneh - November 29, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Whateverist - November 30, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Little Rik - December 1, 2013 at 9:30 am
RE: Who create God? - by LostLocke - December 1, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Who create God? - by Little Rik - December 1, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Who create God? - by houseofcantor - December 1, 2013 at 10:31 am
RE: Who create God? - by Captain Colostomy - November 29, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Who create God? - by freedomfromforum - November 29, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Who create God? - by houseofcantor - November 29, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Kayenneh - November 29, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - November 29, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: Who create God? - by freedomfromforum - November 29, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Kayenneh - November 29, 2013 at 5:09 pm
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - November 29, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Captain Colostomy - November 29, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - November 29, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Captain Colostomy - November 29, 2013 at 11:21 pm
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - November 30, 2013 at 3:49 am
RE: Who create God? - by Bad Writer - November 29, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: Who create God? - by feeling - November 30, 2013 at 4:16 am
RE: Who create God? - by NoraBrimstone - November 30, 2013 at 4:26 am
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - November 30, 2013 at 4:53 am
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - November 30, 2013 at 5:15 am
RE: Who create God? - by downbeatplumb - November 30, 2013 at 5:19 am
RE: Who create God? - by Little Rik - November 30, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 30, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Who create God? - by bennyboy - December 1, 2013 at 7:10 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - December 2, 2013 at 1:28 am
Re: Who create God? - by NoraBrimstone - November 30, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 1, 2013 at 10:52 am
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - December 1, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Who create God? - by Minimalist - December 1, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - December 1, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Who create God? - by houseofcantor - December 1, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - December 1, 2013 at 7:34 pm
RE: Who create God? - by houseofcantor - December 2, 2013 at 1:57 am
RE: Who create God? - by Sleepy - December 1, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - December 1, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Bad Writer - December 1, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 2, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - December 2, 2013 at 3:24 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 2:29 am
RE: Who create God? - by Little Rik - December 2, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: Who create God? - by houseofcantor - December 2, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Who create God? - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - December 2, 2013 at 11:17 am
RE: Who create God? - by houseofcantor - December 2, 2013 at 11:16 am
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - December 2, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Who create God? - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: Who create God? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Nineteen - December 10, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - December 10, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Freedom of thought - December 11, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: Who create God? - by Nineteen - December 11, 2013 at 7:28 am
RE: Who create God? - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 7:47 am
RE: Who create God? - by Freedom of thought - December 12, 2013 at 4:23 am
RE: Who create God? - by Tonus - December 10, 2013 at 5:43 pm
RE: Who create God? - by KichigaiNeko - December 10, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: Who create God? - by The_Thinking_Theist - December 10, 2013 at 11:07 pm
RE: Who create God? - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 4:49 am
RE: Who create God? - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 7:49 am
RE: Who create God? - by Nineteen - December 11, 2013 at 8:10 am
RE: Who create God? - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:12 am
RE: Who create God? - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:37 am
RE: Who create God? - by Angrboda - December 12, 2013 at 5:19 am

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