(December 15, 2013 at 6:05 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:(December 15, 2013 at 8:10 am)Esquilax Wrote: I'm awfully interested in why you decided to phrase this as though the only thing stopping your religion from becoming a violent theocracy is the law?
Somewhat telling, that.
That's what I thought when I read it too! Funny how if the Constitution were ripped to pieces I'd still respect his right to religious freedom but I'd be in danger from the Christians!
I've heard a few statements from Christians this year as a matter of fact, to that effect-- including calling for the deaths of gays (my own father and my friends father).
I've seen someone literally tear up at the thought of how Israel and the Jews are "gods chosen people", and in the same breath offered a romanticized notion to blow up a mosque to die for those Jews.
Regularly and often I hear this same offhand threat used by Christians, too--to the effect of, "Respect the Constitution and my right to have a gun, because without it I'd be shooting you with that same gun, you. ________atheist/gay/liberal/politically correct person________. "
I don't consider the Bible benign, anymore. Any question in my mind has been concreted by the mindsets of fervent Christians and a review of history. History has proven time and time again, that when unleashed, the Bible is used for genocide and oppression.
Ronedee, you should be ashamed of yourself. I am no danger to you but if given the chance, you would be to me. I'm a better person on the inside, than you, because I am an atheist.
The Constitution of the United States (so you will be in no way be confused with some other constitutation) is an extremely complicated document dressed up in simplistic language.
A couple of instances: "freedom of religion" (first amendment) is generally considered to encompass all religions but what did that really mean to our "Founding Fathers"? I, frankly don't know but I don't see how it can be taken anyway but literally. I don't see how it would be possible to take a liberal stance and say it only pertains to Christianity. Some will.
"...right to bare arms.." Much as I'd like to take an interpretive stance here and suggest it allows the government the right and, possibly, the need to control what "arms" will not be allowed and how to control them, as liberal as I am I have to disagree with the liberals and even the conservatives and say any and all "arms" should be allowed all citizens of the United States. That includes anything from Atomic weapons to pinfire pistols. So I am a conservative when it comes to the Constitution
I believe, further, that there must be controls over what kinds of weapons are to be owned/operated by whom. But given the 2nd amendment I can't see how that can be accomplished.
I am a liberal politically but believe that if any part of the Constitution is viewed liberally then it becomes invalid simply because all parts would be open to interpretation and would loose its strength.
End of ?rant?
Robert
