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God is not a person, just a thermodynamically inefficient process.
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RE: God is not a person, just a thermodynamically inefficient process.
(December 20, 2013 at 1:57 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(December 20, 2013 at 11:08 am)Ksa Wrote: Psalm 14:1 says I'm a fool because I believe that the concept of God is idiotic. Christians and Muslims bring up the "watch" argument stating that, if a hand-watch was created by a human, what tells us that a person, aka. God, has not created the Universe?

To the argument that the watch was created, I disagree, my Christian and Muslim brothers are playing with words. The watch was not created, it was transformed, which involved process, not creation. And the process is well defined, in fact, if you go to Rolex factory, they have machinery and workers that follow a procedure.

Assuming God created the Universe, we can't help but to look at the process. Comparing the process of making a Rolex watch to the process by which this Universe was created is like comparing sharp-shooting methodology to "spraying and praying" type of shooting. Life in our Universe is in far too rare for it to qualify as God's main goal, if there even is a God and if he even had such thing as a goal. In fact, life looks like a minuscule by-product.

Furthermore, the process by which life was obtained is random and is by far the worst process you could think of to create life. First of all, it takes too long, second, it's energetically inefficient, with a thermodynamical efficiency approaching 10^-500 given that all stars burn for nothing without creating life and the Sun being a minuscule exception to the rule. All we know for sure, as we read from the microwave background radiation is that there was an explosion and life is a tiny by-product of that explosion.

Question is, what fool of a God would waste so much time and energy to create us if he was an all-knowing person. All that would be required is some incubators in which to clone a few million humans, terraform a planet, put them there and that's it!

Our technology is close to reaching a point where, with fusion reactors we could actually terraform Mars. Since God took 4 billion years to terraform Earth, if we beat that record and terraform Mars in less time, we are greater than God are we not? If we can do God's work, in less time and requiring 10^500 less energy, who is God? Except us? Our process will far exceed God's process, which is nothing but randomness, spray and pray and non-sense: minuscule probabilities of things to occur.

All those words and you missed the meaning of creation. You put to much into the ability of man, we have not been able to make grass let lone terraform a planet. Science fiction is not reality.

GC

Nice argument from ignorance you got there. But why am I even talking to somebody who thinks I deserve to go to hell.
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RE: God is not a person, just a thermodynamically inefficient process. - by feeling - December 20, 2013 at 2:14 pm

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