(December 20, 2013 at 4:28 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:(December 20, 2013 at 3:59 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: Correct. Some of us are atheist.You know what I meant. Christianity contains some unscrupulous types and some who are misguided and unwise. The same is true of atheists by the way. The actions of those people are not necessarily representative of the whole.
You continue to dodge. The discussion is about praying for a daughter that is brain dead. If you are saying all christians that put forth hope for a miracle recovery through god intervention are being "unscrupulous" then you have effectively destroyed the christian tenet, that there is a loving god out there that will interact with people in the manner set forth in the bible.
There are no atheist "tenets" so there is nothing to be unscrupulous about in regards to atheism. If a man cheats on his taxes then it is merely incidental that he is an atheist. The action and the non-belief cannot have anything to with each other unless the action is in direct response to the unbelief.
The fact that christianity has tenets and principles and atheism does not set them greatly apart.
All christians put forth false hope for this girl because all main variances of this cult put forth that god is all powerful, interactive, and listens to prayers.
If you don't believe there is hope for even a dead girl, let alone just a brain dead girl, then you are only fooling yourself that you are a christian. It is a completely empty claim.
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