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Do computers have consciousness?
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
(December 23, 2013 at 10:46 pm)whateverist Wrote: I don't think the number of connections is the main problem. Programs can perform tasks, even to the point of following extensive decision trees to diagnose disease in humans. But there is a difference in kind between performing a decision tree and caring about the outcome. How exactly does one program a machine to care. It can prioritize by following decision trees. It can even follow mega-decision trees to refine sub-decision trees and thus 'learn'. Fine. But consciousness is much more about there being 'someone' there, a nexus of caring about outcomes. Making choices and performing the tasks which someone who cared would, does not equal there being someone there experiencing what we mean by consciousness. Probably better to stick to talking about intelligence when it comes to machines. I agree with Chas that this discussion is premature without an adequate definition of consciousness. If we define it down enough, I'll lose my objections.

Studies done by psychologist have shown that humans are not completely self-aware until around 4-5 years of age. I would propose that if a computer/machine that is capable of the following it is self-aware or conscious.
Onward, my faithful steed!
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Do computers have consciousness? - by The Reality Salesman - December 23, 2013 at 1:15 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 23, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 23, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Anomalocaris - December 23, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by downbeatplumb - December 23, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Tonus - December 23, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Napoléon - December 23, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 23, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Napoléon - December 23, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 23, 2013 at 2:35 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Napoléon - December 23, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Napoléon - December 23, 2013 at 2:37 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Napoléon - December 23, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Whateverist - December 23, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Ksa - December 23, 2013 at 2:32 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Ryantology - December 23, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by bennyboy - December 24, 2013 at 8:00 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Rayaan - December 23, 2013 at 4:48 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Ryantology - December 23, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Rayaan - December 23, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 23, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by LostLocke - December 23, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Tonus - December 23, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Angrboda - December 23, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Minimalist - December 23, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by pocaracas - December 23, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Chas - December 23, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Chas - December 23, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Chas - December 23, 2013 at 9:22 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Crulax - December 23, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Angrboda - December 23, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by MindForgedManacle - December 23, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Angrboda - December 24, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by MindForgedManacle - December 24, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Angrboda - December 24, 2013 at 2:43 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Crulax - December 24, 2013 at 12:15 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Whateverist - December 24, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Ryantology - December 24, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Chas - December 24, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Tonus - December 24, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by The Reality Salesman - December 23, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Whateverist - December 23, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Crulax - December 23, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by là bạn điên - December 23, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Zen Badger - December 24, 2013 at 9:25 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by là bạn điên - December 24, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Zen Badger - December 24, 2013 at 9:37 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Napoléon - December 24, 2013 at 9:58 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Zen Badger - December 24, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Ryantology - December 24, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Zen Badger - December 24, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by KichigaiNeko - December 24, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Napoléon - December 24, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by MindForgedManacle - December 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Angrboda - December 24, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Zen Badger - December 25, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Whateverist - December 25, 2013 at 3:14 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by bennyboy - December 25, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by anonymous108 - January 24, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Alex K - January 24, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by anonymous108 - January 24, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Odysseus - January 24, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by truthBtold - January 24, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Do computers have consciousness? - by Mudhammam - January 24, 2014 at 5:29 pm

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