(December 25, 2013 at 1:39 pm)ThomM Wrote: There is Abundant evidence that individual "life" is finite - Virtually everything you eat - which has to be digested in your body - was once alive. And you eat very little living beef or pork or chicken - much less the cooked or harvested vegetables. If you want proof that life is finite - go to a cemetery and dig up a human from 100 years ago - who was not embalmed. YOU will find a lot of bones - and most of the living tissue will be gone. Most countries even have a definition of human death as well. One would not need that if life was not finite.
Where suppose to be the evidence that the consciousness stick with the dead body?
Quote:AS far as saying there is no "god" - you are using an all encompassing term to potentially describe a number of different claims and concepts. Let us limit the term "god" to its so called supernatural definition - and leave Elvis out of this.
You are correct in saying that you cannot prove the negative - that no "god" exists - However - it is possible to say a particular Claimed god is nonsense.
I can - without any concern - say that there is no god of the major religions that actually exists. It is simply impossible for All of the claims to actually be true of the same being. These claims often contradict themselves - to the point that a being could not fulfill them at the same time.
For example - there is no god that can be both All knowing and Almighty at the same time. An all knowing god would know everything that was to happen for all time - past - present and future. And therefore it can only do what it already knows to be ALL knowing - it does not have the power to do something else (Which would eliminate all knowing). And if there is something it cannot do = it cannot be almighty. Of course - if everything must happen as the god knows - then there is NO FREE WILL - at the time you make a "decision" the ONLY choice you actually have is to do what the god knows - you also cannot choose to do something else. (THere are lots more contradictions as well)
Based on that - the Xtian, Jewish, and Islamic gods (Which are not the same no matter how many people claim them to be) cannot actually exist as claimed.
IF you took the time to look into them - all of the gods of major religion are impossibilities. No go one step further. - The most basic claim for proving of a god - doesn't actually do that one. The claim the the universe needed an origin requires a god - which is not true. All that might imply - is a creator - with that power - to create. Even if a higher power were needed - one all encompassing creature is simply not implied. Nor is the continued existence of that creature as well - the Big bang might as well been the destruction of that being. So - I see no reason for a god to have existed as well as still exists.
I am not really interested in what religions say.
As i said again and again religions are based on dogmas or false truth.
There is no point in trying to figure out whether God exist or not based on assumptions.
The only way to find out whether God exist or not is to expand our own consciousness and from there one realize that deep inside there is a mine of spiritual gold and that gold is something alive and well.
From there one has got to establish a relationship with that entity.
Slowly slowly one realize who this entity is.
Religions see everything external but externally there is nothing.
Everything is internal and within is where God lie.