(December 27, 2013 at 12:04 am)agapelove Wrote: The experiences were not just transcendent love, peace and joy but also things which happen in the world. I started to experience numerous coincidences until it seemed they were not coincidences but deliberate orchestrations. For instance, going across country and meeting the same two people a thousand miles away at the same place and time when they didn't know eachother, weren't traveling your route, and were actually headed in two completely different directions. Needing a certain amount of money and having someone slip you the exact amount anonymously when you hadn't told anyone. Needing certain items and having people come out of the woodwork to give them to you. Having one leg that was shorter than the other grown out to be even with the other leg. Dreaming about something and then having it repeated to you by people multiple times. Studying something specific and having it repeated to you by people multiple times. Things of that nature.
Honestly, studying something and having people repeat it to you must be the lamest of the bunch. That happens all the time. All of the things you've mentioned are not that moving.
Quote:I couldn't really begin to describe how many of these things have happened. Individually you might write some of them off, but taken together they add up to a chain of evidence of the actions of an all powerful God. Not absolute proof but they certainly helped me to see that God is in control. Looking back on my life I can clearly see that the amazing things I had written off as coincidence were the hand of God over my life.So by your own admission, this is the argument from ignorance. You don't know how/why, therefore god.
Quote:The revelation was about the triune nature of God. I kept getting signs about God being 3 in 1 (literally hundreds and hundreds of times) but I didn't get it until I read the bible. The signs were usually in numbers, like 333, and I could feel God showing me something about Himself, but I didn't get it until I read the bible.Numbers and signs. That has confirmation bias written all over it. So this convinced you that it wasn't just god, it was the god of the bible? That's it? Come on, the bible talks about thousands of things and the fact that you see a lot of 3s makes all of them true?
Sorry if I missed anyone else!
Let me tell you something, my grandparents are buddhists. Not the hippie type, the other type. And my grandfather had a dream where guanying (one of the ones they pray to) came and gave him lottery numbers. He bought the numbers and won.
The reason none of these are good enough evidence is because plenty of these things have happened to people of other religions which sucked them deeper into their religions. The obvious conclusion, and also the one that assumes the least, is that all of these are coincidences. You cannot conclude that all gods are real because that is not evidence of gods' existences, and that is assuming way too much. For those who conclude that, well that did not happen to me, therefore it's irrelevant to the my truth; they are just ignoring evidence and pretending that something like god's existence is a personal thing, it isn't, it should be a universal truth.
Another question, if you don't mind. I understand how you were convinced of god's existence. What convinced you to worship him? I cannot really think of anything that can convince me to worship someone unless with the threat of hell.[/quote]