RE: From atheism to Christianity? How so?
December 27, 2013 at 3:37 pm
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2013 at 3:43 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(December 26, 2013 at 5:01 pm)agapelove Wrote: Would just like to add, I'm not a she but a he.I also see that a few people are saying that I was not a critical thinker prior to my belief in God. You're free to believe that, but as I pointed this out earlier, it is basically the no true scotsman fallacy. I understood why I believed what I believed, and I could articulate it rationally. There are testimonies of professors, scientists and philosophers converting from atheism to Christianity and they were not intellectually weak or ignorant of logic. So I don't think it's fair to simply dismiss me as being intellectually weak or ignorant of logic just because you think a belief in God is irrational. It's okay though if you do, it isn't going to hurt my feelings.
I don't doubt your intelligence. It's not a true Scotsman fallacy in this case because the surmise is based on you having not been raised in a religion, not on the basis that 'no true atheist can become a Christian'. Sometimes things are just wrong, no fallacy needed. I'll take your word on the critical thinking, with the following caveat.
I mean something pretty specific by 'critical thinking'. Familiarity with the more common logical fallacies (like appeal to authority or appeal to pity), willingness to seriously consider the possibility of being wrong, understanding that wanting something to be true has no bearing on whether it actually IS true, and the ability to entertain multiple hypotheses without adopting any of them; would be a reasonable summay of what I mean by the term.
A freethinker or rational skeptic is committed to follow evidence and reason where they lead and to avoid appealing to the authority of persons, dogma, or texts. On this particular discussion board, most of the atheists (and maybe one or two of the theists) can reasonably be described as freethinkers in that specific sense. It's a philosophical position, and if you don't share that position, please don't take it as an insult, and saying you're not a rational skeptic doesn't mean you're not a (fairly) rational person and saying you're not a freethinker doesn't mean you're neither free nor a thinker.
(December 26, 2013 at 10:03 pm)Severan Wrote: I don't think that there are as many Atheists converting to christianity as there are christians converting to Atheism. It must be because we have better arguments.
Anyhow, the only way I see an Atheist converting to christianity is if they become delusional. (Most christians are)
I can actually think of a couple of cases (one in the news and one online at another forum I frequent) of people with well-established credentials as skeptics who converted. In both cases the reasons were emotional: it 'felt right' and, probably no coincidence, they each had a very religious SO.