(February 25, 2010 at 1:52 am)tackattack Wrote: yes very much in line with what I'm talking about please continue, when I have time I'll look up some Marx stuff. Please in the meantime continue everyone.
I suggest read some Marx first.
Your public library will have a copy of 'Capital'. Perhaps have a glance at 'exchange value' and 'false consciousness'.
OR perhaps start here:
Quote:In political economy and especially Marxian economics, exchange value refers to one of four major attributes of a commodity, i.e., an item or service produced for, and sold on the market. The other three aspects are use value, value and price.
Thus, a commodity has:
* a value
* a use-value (or utility)
* an exchange value
* a price (it could be an actual selling price or an imputed ideal price)
These four concepts have a very long history in human thought, from Aristotle to David Ricardo,[1] becoming ever more clearly distinguished as the development of commercial trade progressed. This entry focuses on Marx's summation of the results of economic thought about exchange-value.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_value
Quote:False consciousness is the Marxist thesis that material and institutional processes in capitalist society are misleading to the proletariat, and to other classes. These processes betray the true relations of forces between those classes, and the real state of affairs regarding the development of pre-socialist society (relative to the secular development of human society in general).
This is essentially a result of ideological control which the proletariat either do not know they are under or disregard with a view to their own POUM (probability/possibility of upward mobility)[1]. POUM (not to be confused with the Workers' Party of Marxist Unification, POUM) or something like it is required in economics with its presumption of rational agency; otherwise wage laborers would be the conscious supporters of social relations antithetical to their own interests, violating that presumption[2].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consciousness