Gods plan is flawed as is the concept of god itself!

[tackattack]

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tackattack said: " If you really want to share ideas CP then I'm more than willing as always. If you just want to rant I won't bother answering your questions. If you're just going to continue to ignore the points I bring up I'll assume you conceed, privately to myself, and the extreme strength of your atheism will remain untouched."

Why is it that when I make a statement it is considered ranting when I am simply making an informed opinion? Your replies to my questions did not really answer my questions any differently than I would have expected. In order to accept your replies I would have as you have correctly stated, to accept the word of god and his existence by faith. I personally cannot accept either by faith since in my own opinion faith is the abandonment of reason contrary to what many theists claim.

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It's not a rant CP, I do apologise. My point should have been that you do expect an answera certain way and are ready to condemn it when it arrives, that's disingenuous. You do make very good informed opinions and have good points sometimes. I just wish the conversation ws face-to-face so I could better read your tone rather through words, because I do tend to read a lot of posturing, disgust, and disingenuine questions in the meaning behind your words, when read.

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Comparing god to an earthly father is one of the most incompatible and fallacious errors anyone could commit since the biblical gods many lessons in the O.T. ended in death. I don't know of many parents who would slay their own children for being curious and "sinning" against them. I agree that none of us are perfect but I do not think that that was gods intention from my reading of Genesis. Although most modern Christians no longer take the Adam and Eve story literally it still demonstrates that god was disappointed even surprised by the disobedience of the first couple. If this is true then it demonstrates that the so called omniscience of god is questionable and even incompatible with not just this but many other events as told in the scriptures.

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I don't compare God to an earthly father, I learn about God's fartherly aspects from lessons I've learned as a father myself. Mortality is a fact of our lives and I try to reconcile that in my views of an omnimax God as best I can. I wouldn't go as far as to say surprised personally. Am I surprised that my kids don't listen? No, but I still expect them too. There's no way Genisis could be 100% accurate for literal translation unless you believed that the world was 6000 years old. At least we can agree on that.

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To recognize that mankind is fallible, fragile, etc. is better explained as a natural occurrence than to try and throw the blame on oneself in order to aggrandize and exult a so called god whose existence is impossible and unproven.

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I do agree that it does make sense that random selection is a good explination for flaws in a few I don't think it covers flaws in all well enough, nor deals withe origination well enough. That's where we'll have to agree to disagree.